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21-08-13 20:02:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: ...to be the queef charmer, huh.
21-08-22 18:54:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I didn't lose power once
21-08-22 19:03:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: hurray
21-08-22 19:09:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: how was your hurricane ?
21-08-22 19:18:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: didn't even get my hurricane... it was a tropical storm by the time it hit land
21-08-22 19:21:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: is it over?
21-08-22 19:22:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it might turn around and come back once it's done with you
21-08-22 21:30:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: "Captain America is an allegory about the United States' mostly forgotten 40-year-long epidemic of pellagra, in this essay I will"
21-08-23 07:00:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cron (WileyMUD in I3)@Iberia: I3 Activity on 2021-08-22: 7 messages from 4 speakers.  Logs at http://wileymud.themud.org/~wiley/log/
21-08-23 10:05:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Yay, Monday?
21-08-23 10:18:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: first day of school
21-08-23 10:18:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: also the epidemic is at its worst
21-08-23 10:35:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ...so far.
21-08-23 14:25:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: =(
21-08-23 15:40:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: its gotta be weird for parents to send their kids to school when they are too young to be vacksed
21-08-23 15:40:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: like, it makes me somewhat uneasy to send my vacksed kids to school, but id be rawther concerned if they were under 12
21-08-23 17:33:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: the youngest is under 12
21-08-23 17:34:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: the covid situation is now a lot worse than when they first closed the schools in march last year
21-08-23 17:43:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it is a worse bug it is true
21-08-23 18:19:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: the bug is worse and the peak is higher
21-08-23 18:20:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/312000336707715072/879334713507082260/Screen_Shot_2021-08-23_at_08.01.56.png
21-08-23 18:20:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: schools closed about a week before spring break 2020 iirc
21-08-23 18:25:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it is all a bit weird
21-08-23 18:25:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: cupla weeks ago i was on a zoom call with the school district and all parent families
21-08-23 18:25:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: things were kind of ok til the end
21-08-23 18:25:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: when nutballs were stridently declaring thir rights to liberties of something or other
21-08-23 18:26:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so its weird enough as it is but somehow some people insist on making it weirder
21-08-23 18:30:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: i've seen the videos of shouting matches
21-08-23 18:30:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: luckily we have governor Cooper
21-08-23 18:32:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: he allows the local GOP state government an "out" of the Great Southern Suicide Pact. When people demand a ban on anti covid measures, they can say there's no point because the governor would veto it
21-08-23 18:42:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: makes it easier i guess
21-08-23 18:43:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: speaking of which
21-08-23 18:43:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: keeping dinos is the cryfreezer has an extra bonus
21-08-23 18:43:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: they gain accelerated xp while frozen, even if you're logged out
21-08-23 18:44:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: otherwise if you're logged out and theyre just standing around, they de-render and gain no xp
21-08-23 18:44:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: they gain xp frozen ??
21-08-23 18:44:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yeah. go unfreeze a dino. you will find it has gained levels
21-08-23 18:45:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: they always poop when you reanimate them
21-08-23 18:45:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: another bonus
21-08-23 18:45:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but the xp gain i think is only when in the freezer
21-08-23 18:46:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: if theyre just in a pod in your pocket they dont gain as much, if any
21-08-23 18:47:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: something to keep in mind is that if you have a platoon of raptors in stasis, gaining xp, so that one day you can unfreeze them and unleash them on something
21-08-23 18:47:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: when you unfreeze them and jack up their health stat, it will take them some time to "heal" from their old health to the new one
21-08-23 18:48:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: tho you probably freeze otters and penguins or something
21-08-23 18:53:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: coupel other things i learned the hard way
21-08-23 18:53:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: dinos wont lay eggs unless there is a male of the species nearby. if you dont see the little heart icon, you wont see an egg
21-08-23 18:54:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and if you want a lot of eggs, tame an oviraptor and put him on "enable wander" near your hens. this effectively doubles the number of eggs you will get. BUT
21-08-23 18:55:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oviraptors are (i think intentionally) glitchy and the will find any window or door to fall out of
21-08-23 18:55:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you have to make an oviraptor box they cannot escape
21-08-23 18:56:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: even more usefully for some reason this egg stimulation effect is also a laxative effect and you will get a lot more poop for your crops
21-08-23 19:07:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so Mrs Sini spent time in Mexico last week visiting her fambly
21-08-23 19:08:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and she was like "OMG you wouldn't believe how masked up people are there"
21-08-23 19:08:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: apparently everyone masks even if they're vacksd
21-08-23 19:08:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: driving in cars they mask up
21-08-23 19:08:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: def walking outside
21-08-23 19:08:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and super double-masked she said, in some places
21-08-23 19:08:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: nise
21-08-23 19:08:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: then she comes back here
21-08-23 19:08:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and everyone's all FREEDOM FREEDOM CHILDREN
21-08-23 19:08:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and she just shakes her head
21-08-23 19:10:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the rhetoric around Don't Mark our Children requires a series of axioms that are distressing
21-08-23 19:10:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hard to know quite what to blame
21-08-23 19:10:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but namely the axiom of "COVID is fake" has to be required, else the house of cards falls down
21-08-23 19:10:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and if that is true, then "The government is lying to us"
21-08-23 19:10:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i was talking with a clever person the other day, who deals in the politics of education
21-08-23 19:11:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and she was very reasonably talking about strategies to incrementally improve the state of our educational system
21-08-23 19:11:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: uh huh
21-08-23 19:11:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and im like ok but these people arent uneducated, nor are they stupid. i dont think the problem is education
21-08-23 19:12:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i agree that critical thinkin skills should be taught but it's not like they used to be taught in the 50's and 60's either. its not a decline in either amount or kind of education
21-08-23 19:12:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: something else is warping people's minds
21-08-23 19:13:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: here's a novel political solution - tell all the conservatives that the brown-skinned immigrants are all wearing masks because they're protecting themselves while waiting for the neurotoxin from the chemtrails to take effect and kill all the white people, thus fulfilling the prophecy of Replacement Theory
21-08-23 19:13:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: eventually she's like yeah i agree but i can only do what i can do
21-08-23 19:13:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: There are a large group of smart professionals that believe in some of the axioms I mentioned
21-08-23 19:14:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i keep coming to the sad conclusion that as a speciaes we are not smart enough to be responsible with the level of liberty granted by this government
21-08-23 19:14:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I don't think we're unique in the level of liberty granted by this government
21-08-23 19:14:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's my impression that there are other countries with a similar level of liberty
21-08-23 19:15:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: for example, i am not a fan of the PRC nor do i like what they do with freedoms or with the uighur. but those fuckers are quietly taking over all of africa an apac for raw materials in a way japan could only dream of in ww2, only chinas weapons are loans
21-08-23 19:15:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: if it were a specietal problem (is that a word) then we'd see a commonality across the board both in depth and in percentage
21-08-23 19:15:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: in 100 years china will be a hemispheric hegemon
21-08-23 19:15:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: we cant plan 4 years out because we're too busy squabbling over who uses which bathroom
21-08-23 19:16:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i think we can be a free society without being a loony tunes society
21-08-23 19:16:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i dont think we need to go to either extreme
21-08-23 19:16:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: just get rid of religion and social media, that'll solve 95% of the issues
21-08-23 19:17:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: new zealand is perfectly cromulent when it comes to freedoms and yet they will enforce the fuck out of a stay in your house order
21-08-23 19:17:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: we cant do that.
21-08-23 19:17:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Mrs Sini is very political, right - she's actively fighting against the governor recall and urging people to do the right thing, etc. And I tell her "the problem isn't that if Newson gets recalled we'll get a porn star in charge for the next year... the problem is that the recall system is engineered in a way where you don't need a majority of idiots to do damage"
21-08-23 19:17:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I think there's an inherent problem unique to the US of A
21-08-23 19:18:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: do go on
21-08-23 19:18:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I think religion and social media, to Lyanic's point, exacerbates it, but it can't be the root of it - because those two things are not unique to the US of A
21-08-23 19:18:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's the fetishization of individual liberty whats the problem
21-08-23 19:18:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: The history and formation of this country carries with it an inherited culture
21-08-23 19:19:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I believe that is part of the ingredient in this pot of stupidity that can't be discounted
21-08-23 19:19:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and btw it's an illusion
21-08-23 19:19:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but my limits are reached rapidly when going down that path
21-08-23 19:19:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: if the government can draft you to go to war, you dont have the indiviual liberty you think you do
21-08-23 19:20:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: there are "inherent american beliefs" that can be traced back down to a sense of entitlement granted by the furious history of the last 250 years or so
21-08-23 19:20:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: gun ownership, for example
21-08-23 19:20:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: if the state can take your house to build a highway, youdont have the individual liberty you think you do
21-08-23 19:20:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: pure liberty can't work in a society
21-08-23 19:20:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: because no, you can't kill your annoying neighbor without consequence
21-08-23 19:20:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: tell that to duuk
21-08-23 19:20:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so the concept of pure liberty doesn't really exist in reality
21-08-23 19:21:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: or john mcafee
21-08-23 19:21:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: brb gotta go have lunch - I am not at liberty to ignore the call to eat
21-08-23 19:21:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: bai
21-08-23 19:22:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ok one more thing - the expectation of pure liberty, and the implication that it's the government that wants to take it away, is seemingly one of those core american values
21-08-23 19:22:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the level of entitlement of that is unique to this country
21-08-23 19:22:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: this is why we breed Karens more in the US than in other places
21-08-23 19:22:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and the NRA
21-08-23 19:22:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and a whole bunch of other things
21-08-23 19:22:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and that sentiment is inherited
21-08-23 19:22:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and that's what I think is at the core of the majority of the problems we're facing as a country
21-08-23 19:23:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ok bai I will read replies upon my return
21-08-23 19:23:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: bai
21-08-23 19:23:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i gtg too will relpy later
21-08-23 19:30:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: wat. there's nothing wrong with our society
21-08-23 19:30:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/23/revealed-california-police-antifa-misinformation
21-08-23 19:30:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you live
21-08-23 19:31:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: wow, crat. so harsh. such mean.
21-08-23 19:34:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: im glad you are alive and have electricity
21-08-23 19:35:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh, I see. I thought you were saying that me living is what is wrong with society
21-08-23 19:35:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I'm glad you are alive and have electricity also
21-08-23 19:36:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: there are confirmed tornados north of here
21-08-23 19:49:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hi
21-08-23 19:50:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I am also glad you live
21-08-23 19:50:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and although the probability is higher than zero, I don't think you're responsible with what is wrong with society
21-08-23 20:19:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: we recently had a housewarming party
21-08-23 20:19:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: we met our neighbors
21-08-23 20:19:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: exchanged info, pledged mutual assistance with tools, fridges, etc
21-08-23 20:20:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: this is practical doomsday prepping
21-08-23 20:20:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: not stocking ammunition
21-08-23 20:21:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: hmm, ammunition might be worth more than gold after doomsday
21-08-23 20:21:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: you could trade it for food
21-08-23 20:24:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and then be shot and have my food taken from my steaming body
21-08-23 20:25:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: also, covid kills far more americans than illegal immigrants, and yet what we focus on is walls and machine guns against dirty refugees and antifas
21-08-23 20:25:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so our problem is partyl the fetishization of liberty but its also a determination to distill our fears only into things we can shoot dead
21-08-23 20:26:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: according to foxnews and several southern governors, the covid comes from millions of illegal aliens let in by kamala harris and Jill Biden's sock puppet
21-08-23 20:27:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: well fox news isnt saying that. theyre reporting that some people are saying that.
21-08-23 20:27:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: get it right
21-08-23 20:27:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: the 'opinion' section seems to be saying exactly that
21-08-23 20:27:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you know who doesnt say that
21-08-23 20:28:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the two spinosauruses i tames
21-08-23 20:28:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: they dont say shit cuz theyre piling up xp in m my cryofridge
21-08-23 20:29:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: your mobile dino trap is the shizzle
21-08-23 20:29:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: I'm going to steal it once I have enough black pearls to make another motorboat
21-08-23 20:29:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: i built some stationary dino traps and they're just not going for it
21-08-23 20:30:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: the foundations they're built on prevent spawning so they have to travel a ways
21-08-23 20:32:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you dont need to make it out of metal
21-08-23 20:32:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that first one i built was metal because i feared alphas tearing stone down
21-08-23 20:32:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it was massively costly and in retrospect not worth the expense
21-08-23 20:32:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: now i only use it for hunting alphas
21-08-23 20:33:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: for actual catching i have a fleet of boats of the same design but stone and wood
21-08-23 20:35:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: a fleet
21-08-23 20:35:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: a wooden raft can't outrun a leedsichthys
21-08-23 20:36:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: three with a similar design (simplified), one that is a just a battle boat, for shooting out of, and one that is just a flat lily pad for landing tired agrents
21-08-23 20:36:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: 3rd hit sinks your boat
21-08-23 20:36:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: these are river boats. i dont fuck around in the deeps
21-08-23 20:36:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: leed will fuck up your motorboat too
21-08-23 20:37:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: takes a dozen hits and your motorboat can outrun it
21-08-23 20:37:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: have to go, lets pick this up later
21-08-23 21:07:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I had a dream a few nights ago that was Ark related, but I don't remember much about it
21-08-23 21:07:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: It had to do with who was really running the show, and all I really remember is a moment where I found out about the Dinolluminati
21-08-23 21:07:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and that's it, that's all I remember
21-08-23 21:07:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: thanks guys
21-08-23 23:29:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: we come from the sea
21-08-23 23:29:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I think I read that somewhere
21-08-23 23:29:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: is that why I feel your waves are calling to me?
21-08-23 23:29:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: right here at the beach, your edge
21-08-23 23:30:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: - original poem by srini
21-08-24 01:30:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: siniku
21-08-24 15:55:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hai
21-08-24 15:55:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ku
21-08-24 15:57:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: hail santa
21-08-24 15:59:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hi Dex
21-08-24 16:02:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: in other news, my buddy's novel came out today
21-08-24 16:02:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: sci-fi thriller in spanish
21-08-24 16:02:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: self-published on Kindle
21-08-24 16:02:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: nice book cover
21-08-24 16:03:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: dude is like my best friend from college, proud of him
21-08-24 16:06:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Tsath (Nuke II in I3)@Iberia: that's cool
21-08-24 16:23:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: that's cool
21-08-24 16:23:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's good so far
21-08-24 16:23:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: a few if the dialogs are a little kludgy
21-08-24 16:25:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and he's put a few characters in an emotional conversation without really fleshing them all out - he's in a hurry to captivate the reader
21-08-24 16:30:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: i have this vague book related plan
21-08-24 16:30:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: one day I intend to read a book
21-08-24 16:32:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Tsath (Nuke II in I3)@Iberia: I've been reading The Expanse from book 1 and up. Quite good.
21-08-24 16:34:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Beltaloda
21-08-24 16:34:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: The tv show is really well done
21-08-24 16:35:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: tho I can argue that maybe the lead (Holden) is a bit miscast, it's not too drastic a miscast
21-08-24 16:37:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Tsath (Nuke II in I3)@Iberia: I think he's too pretty in the show compared to how he's described in the books.
21-08-24 16:37:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Tsath (Nuke II in I3)@Iberia: But hey, they gotta sell tickets
21-08-24 16:38:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the actor's missing some leadership gravitas, is all - it's something about his body language
21-08-24 16:38:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Tsath (Nuke II in I3)@Iberia: Yeah, I get what you mean. I thought "Too young" when I first saw him.
21-08-24 16:49:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: any time i sit down to read i fall asleep
21-08-24 16:50:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: i thought the show was really well adapted, especially the first season
21-08-24 16:51:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: the acress who played avasarala was perfect
21-08-24 16:51:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: guess the stones didn't have a pact with the devil for imortality, the drummer died :(
21-08-24 16:51:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: the only cast that was a bit jarring to me was Bobby. I had a lean, mean, slightly older veteran in my head, not a cute young lady with a baby face
21-08-24 16:52:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: guess the stones didn't have a pact with the devil for imortality, the      drummer died :(
21-08-24 16:53:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: oh, Keith Richards got all the immortality
21-08-24 16:53:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: yeah, you'd think he would be the one to die first
21-08-24 16:54:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: maybe drugs make you live longer?
21-08-24 17:01:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: oh it looks like Keith Richards isn't all that old, he's only in his 40s
21-08-24 17:03:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: just as many stones have died as beatles now
21-08-24 17:04:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: if humans lived on average 300 years, would people say "he's in his 140's" or "he's in his second 40's"?
21-08-24 17:07:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: if humans had 8 fingers would they say he's in his 60s ?
21-08-24 17:08:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: if humans had brains do you think they'd all get vaccinated?
21-08-24 17:09:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: if king james had had unusually tiny feet, would we all be over 6 ft tall?
21-08-24 17:16:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: if humans had evolved more rods than cones would Neil Diamond's "song sung blue" even exist?
21-08-24 17:17:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: how old is keith richards?
21-08-24 17:17:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: 140
21-08-24 17:31:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I see you're skeptical of my answer
21-08-24 17:31:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I urge you to think - have I ever joked around before?
21-08-24 17:41:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: you have punned. You're a known punner
21-08-24 17:58:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i just lost two prize ichthys and a prize argie in the fucking underwater cave
21-08-24 17:58:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i understand the principle of only taking into a cave what youre willing to lose
21-08-24 17:58:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but the price of admission is fucking steep
21-08-24 18:02:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the only true payment is time
21-08-24 18:02:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's not that you can't get another three prize dinos - it just takes time
21-08-24 18:02:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: is that something you have
21-08-24 18:03:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: this game tsks me
21-08-24 18:03:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it tasks me, and i shall have it
21-08-24 18:03:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: tsk tsk
21-08-24 18:04:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: dex i am leaving some meat in your lava cave hut
21-08-24 18:04:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ans some tools
21-08-24 18:04:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hopefully you are not offended
21-08-24 19:02:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hello
21-08-24 19:04:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: chai
21-08-24 20:49:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: greetings
21-08-24 20:49:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: what you need, is to cheat
21-08-24 20:52:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: well you see
21-08-24 20:52:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: im not the type
21-08-24 20:53:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i never cheated on my minecraft server, no mtter how many diamonds i lost in lava
21-08-24 20:53:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i felt that making the game easier implied not liking the game
21-08-24 21:00:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the reward for hard work goes away if there is no more hard work
21-08-24 21:00:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: for some folks, that's the appeal of minecraft and Ark
21-08-24 21:01:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and I dare say people are more successful IRL when they achieve pleasure from hard work well done
21-08-24 21:02:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: its apparently common to tweak server settings, like having xp multipliers and shortening the amount of time between egg layings etc
21-08-24 21:02:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: my kids are all, "I want an easy job that pays well"
21-08-24 21:02:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: aint done it. vanilla as fuck
21-08-24 21:03:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ill tell you what tho, i do understand the temptation
21-08-24 21:03:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: my response is, "why would anyone select you to do that job? What you really want is a job that's easy for -you- but hard for everyone else."
21-08-24 21:03:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's very tempting, yes
21-08-24 21:03:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: sometimes when I'm out on my electric bike I'm tempted to turn on electric assist when I'm mid-steep-hill
21-08-24 21:03:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i was looking for black pearls and accidentally wandered intoan underwarter quest cave im like oh. i remember reading about an underwater cave with DOZENS of sharks and multiple alphas and swarms of eels
21-08-24 21:04:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's a button away
21-08-24 21:04:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: just a button press and this pain goes away
21-08-24 21:04:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but what's the point
21-08-24 21:04:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: why am I out here
21-08-24 21:04:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: right
21-08-24 21:04:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: my thumb wavers back to resting position
21-08-24 21:04:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: button not clicked
21-08-24 21:04:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i lost a huge amount of really good loot, as i figured it was a simple exploratory mission, not a cave invasion
21-08-24 21:05:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but sure enough, lost that itchy, then lost the second one i brought to try to rescue my stuff, and that was it
21-08-24 21:05:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: RIP awesome loot
21-08-24 21:05:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: next time those sharks are getting fucked the fuck up
21-08-24 21:05:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and it'll feel great
21-08-24 21:06:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: i got 100% of black pearls from killing every trilobite I find on the beach
21-08-24 21:06:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: takes about a year to find enough for a motorboat
21-08-24 21:07:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: and then when it breaks because you mistakenly hit demolish on the motorboat instead of the metal foundation you misplaced on it, you scream
21-08-24 21:07:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: and that is the moment when you cheat
21-08-24 21:07:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I think the only reason I'd "cheat" is when there's a game bug
21-08-24 21:07:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: that's how it goes
21-08-24 21:07:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I mean it's not fair for me to have to deal with a bug that's getting fixed in a month
21-08-24 21:09:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the closest i have come to cheating
21-08-24 21:09:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: is when something really really really lame happened, bug related
21-08-24 21:10:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: my machine crashes all the time, because I'm an idiot and play ark on a mac
21-08-24 21:10:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i think it was when i died as i expected but instead of my loot dropping to the ground, it bizarrely bounced off into a pit filled with bats
21-08-24 21:10:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ive never seen that loot bounce bug before or since
21-08-24 21:10:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: i know, bats do that, I dont think it's cheating
21-08-24 21:10:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: i mean i don't think its a bug
21-08-24 21:11:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i was so furious i turned off the whole server
21-08-24 21:11:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: they pick it up and put it out of reach
21-08-24 21:11:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: thats kind of a cheat as it gave me more time to formulate a plan
21-08-24 21:11:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: was that in the north west ice cave ?
21-08-24 21:11:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: upper south
21-08-24 21:12:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but all i did later was just cool off, turn the server back on, and do what i could
21-08-24 21:12:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that loot was lost forever of course
21-08-24 21:12:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it was a fucking pit filled with fucking bats
21-08-24 21:12:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: tho now, should it happen again
21-08-24 21:13:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: they are getitng a snootful or rocket propelled grenades
21-08-24 21:13:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: loool
21-08-24 21:13:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: cuz i aint no helpless beach bob no mo
21-08-24 21:14:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: what you need is a lvl 150 baryonix
21-08-24 21:16:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ok so listen
21-08-24 21:16:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i dont understand that
21-08-24 21:16:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: people online are like "yeah you need at least 19 rexes above level 200"
21-08-24 21:17:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: im halfway up the map and havent seen a single rex above level 30
21-08-24 21:17:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i hate to call people cheaters but
21-08-24 21:17:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: right now i dunno how you get a level 250 anything
21-08-24 21:20:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: that depends on your server settings
21-08-24 21:21:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: don't listen to people online, they're assholes
21-08-24 21:22:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: have you tried breeding them ?
21-08-24 21:23:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: not quite yet. i suspect that higher level dinos are further north, and i got the idea that its better to breed high level guys
21-08-24 21:23:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: im slowly preparing for an expedition to find yutis
21-08-24 21:26:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: they're all over the base of that ice mountain in the north west with the blue obelisk
21-08-24 21:26:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: my target is that little river delta in the far north center
21-08-24 21:27:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: don't approach them unmounted, they have a panic attack that makes you or your mount lose control and run away blindly
21-08-24 21:27:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: right
21-08-24 21:27:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i'll probably travel overland unmounted with a platoon of theris
21-08-24 21:28:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: a dozen theris will mincemeat anything aggroing on me, and this will let me build a simple base
21-08-24 21:28:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: you have insane numbers of animals
21-08-24 21:28:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: thank goodness for pokeballs
21-08-24 21:30:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i was going to focus on finding those sea scorpions and harvesting black pearls
21-08-24 21:31:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but losing my two favorite itchies made me change priorities
21-08-24 21:31:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i caught and froze about a dozen itchies and am now letting them accumulate hp in my cryofreezer for a while so i can level up before i try again
21-08-24 21:33:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: *xp
21-08-24 21:35:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh, protip. cnidaria can kill your argie if it gets too close to the surface
21-08-24 21:35:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: found that out today the hard way
21-08-24 21:36:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: their attack drains their stamina so they can't move and just stay there, slowly getting killed while there is nothing you can do about it
21-08-24 21:37:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: this happened over shark infested water
21-08-24 21:37:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i could not rcover the awesome loot i put in the argie (since it would be safe there)
21-08-24 21:37:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: this fucking game
21-08-24 21:38:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: you're going to get a burnout
21-08-24 21:39:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that would mean the game won
21-08-24 21:39:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and it will not win
21-08-24 22:07:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I'm gonna stream a random game for a lil bit
21-08-25 01:37:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: sleep
21-08-25 02:14:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: nite
21-08-25 05:14:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: noop
21-08-25 05:39:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: flopp
21-08-25 05:40:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Am (ShadowMUD in I3)@Iberia: 5 1/4 or 8" ?
21-08-25 05:40:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: 10"
21-08-25 05:41:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Am (ShadowMUD in I3)@Iberia: I could be wrong but I don't think even DEC did 10".
21-08-25 05:41:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: we're talking about sini's DEC
21-08-25 05:42:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Am (ShadowMUD in I3)@Iberia: Imagine DEC competing with Ron Jeremey in the 80s.. lol
21-08-25 05:43:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Am (ShadowMUD in I3)@Iberia: DEC Digital digitals might have saved them from HP
21-08-25 05:43:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Am (ShadowMUD in I3)@Iberia: ok, fine.. 9 months of Q then H dom
21-08-25 05:59:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: this took an unexpected turn
21-08-25 05:59:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but I welcome it
21-08-25 14:48:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: thank you
21-08-25 15:04:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: hello hello
21-08-25 15:04:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: I suck at being professional at this mud stuff.  HOw many days since I last logged in to check?  I am a slacker.  I need to up my game.
21-08-25 15:08:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I log into muds to shoot the bull with the folks here
21-08-25 15:08:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: if not for that I'd probably never ever ever log in
21-08-25 15:08:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ever
21-08-25 15:53:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: did it sail over his head
21-08-25 15:54:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hi
21-08-25 15:54:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: michon
21-09-06 07:21:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: all chaps are assless
21-09-06 07:32:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: It seems like that's not the case; from what I'm seeing the earliest chaps did in fact have an ass, and the assless chaps is a later development that is now the standard.
21-09-06 16:42:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Assman
21-09-06 16:49:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: I need to stop slacking off, and I need to start monitoring my mud regularly.
21-09-06 16:49:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: oh hello Enker, Viriato, etc
21-09-06 16:53:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: what up man
21-09-06 17:10:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: chicken butt
21-09-06 17:10:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: more seriously I'm practicing shell scripting to take care of various maintenance and backup tasks
21-09-06 19:18:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: hihi
21-09-06 19:20:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Oh hoh
21-09-06 19:22:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: what EF stands for?
21-09-06 19:23:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: did you choose 2 random followed letters from alphabet?
21-09-06 19:23:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: guess I can check in grapevine...
21-09-06 19:24:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I could think of something it could stand for, but it wouldn't be good for polite company.
21-09-06 19:25:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: It stands for Eternal Fantasy
21-09-06 19:26:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: no polite company in these comms!
21-09-06 19:26:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: ok! not in grapevine site.
21-09-06 19:27:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: thanks, E
21-09-06 19:28:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: *nodsnodsnods*
21-09-06 21:38:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: michael k. williams :(
21-09-06 21:42:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: Oh, come on now...fuckin' Cratreaper. You just had to take Michael K. Williams, didn't you?
21-09-06 21:44:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: dude was only like sini's sage
21-09-06 22:21:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Ya know who ELSE is only like sini's age?
21-09-06 23:59:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: couldnt have been me. i was busy with jean-paul belmondo
21-09-07 00:01:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: respiratory distress?
21-09-07 00:03:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: too soon
21-09-07 03:29:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I CAN'T BREATHE
21-09-07 03:31:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so prophetic
21-09-07 05:46:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/lil-uzi-vert-says-24-131946919.html
21-09-07 06:59:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: wat. he stoled that story from me. my $24 million diamond was ripped off of me at a concert by gary faustich
21-09-07 13:24:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: burp
21-09-07 17:39:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: https://nypost.com/2021/08/30/texas-man-who-rallied-against-covid-19-measures-dies/
21-09-07 18:00:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: My favourite development is that a bunch of anti-vaxxers, believing that the COVID vaccine is a plot to sterilize people, are taking ivermectin instead of getting vaccinated.
21-09-07 18:00:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: And, here's the fun bit: Ivermectin sterilises male humans who take it at, like, a rate of 80% or something.
21-09-07 18:00:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Fucking poetry.
21-09-07 18:05:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: 80% rate O_o
21-09-07 18:06:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i wonder if it's psyops
21-09-07 18:10:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: "[A] recent report showed that 85% of all male patients treated in a particular centre with ivermectin in the recent past who went to the laboratory for routine tests were discovered to have developed various forms, grades and degrees of sperm dysfunctions[.]"
21-09-07 18:10:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: https://www.scholarsresearchlibrary.com/articles/effects-of-ivermectin-therapy-on-the-sperm-functions-of-nigerian-onchocerciasis-patients.pdf
21-09-07 18:10:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: The volume of research is lacking, but there's a pretty clear case to be made for an effect that is at least significant.
21-09-07 18:40:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: there is a lot of crazy out there https://heavy.com/news/benjamin-dagley/
21-09-07 18:40:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: well, out here in america
21-09-07 18:40:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: dunno if norway gets this kind of stuff very often
21-09-07 18:40:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: aside from that one guy of course
21-09-07 18:42:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: And said guy was, as these kinds of guys tend to be, extremely online and highly influenced by US media.
21-09-07 18:42:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: So that's a thing.
21-09-07 18:43:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: But yeah, it obviously happens, but just having a medical system that everyone has access to and is encouraged to use with at least _some_ regularity means that people who are deteriorating mentally are caught earlier, on balance.
21-09-07 18:46:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: im trying to convince joshua that we should move to norway
21-09-07 18:46:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: maybe we can live with you for a little while til we find a place of our own
21-09-07 18:47:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Unfortunately, my apartment is really large enough for that.
21-09-07 18:47:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: excellent
21-09-07 18:48:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: But we have AirBnB in Oslo, so you should be fine.
21-09-07 18:49:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Also hotels.
21-09-07 18:56:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I'd totally move to Norway
21-09-07 19:01:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I'm in. party at Crisis'!
21-09-07 19:12:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: chez Crisis
21-09-07 19:13:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: une fete au chez Crisis
21-09-07 19:13:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i mean why tf not
21-09-07 19:14:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: how bad are the taxes
21-09-07 19:14:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: taxes in texas are taxing
21-09-07 19:14:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: high property taxes
21-09-07 19:15:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: we were hanging out with our dutch friends yesterday after going to the Van Gogh experience and they were telling us about Dutch taxes saying, "no they're overall not that much more than what you'd pay here"
21-09-07 19:15:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: maybe that's true of most of europe
21-09-07 19:15:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: It depends on what you mean by 'bad'.
21-09-07 19:16:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the problem is that in america you pay taxes but receive comparitively little benefit.
21-09-07 19:16:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: For most people they're more or less the same as in the US, but it's not all pissed away on an absurdly bloated military, so, you know, not bad.
21-09-07 19:17:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: tax-paid quality education up to university level sounds very nice
21-09-07 19:17:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: meh
21-09-07 19:17:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: depends on the country really
21-09-07 19:18:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: well I'm glad I used an adjective
21-09-07 19:18:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and it probably depends on just which taxes yer talking about
21-09-07 19:18:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i remember going over this for germany and belgium
21-09-07 19:18:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: tell us more
21-09-07 19:19:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: also I ned to go get food so brb
21-09-07 19:19:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: also netherlands
21-09-07 19:19:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so heres the thing, when your company sends you to work in anbother country, taxes need to be paid....or accounted for
21-09-07 19:20:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: eu countries have treaties with the usa that basically say "whichever country taxes most, they get the taxes, and the other country doesnt get the taxes"
21-09-07 19:20:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: this is to avoid having to pay double income tax. handy
21-09-07 19:20:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: problem is you have to pay the higher tax
21-09-07 19:21:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so in order to do this, my company did "ta equalization" which basically meant they did the math to determine how much i would have to be paid in order to satosfy foreign tax, but not take a hit on my take home pay
21-09-07 19:21:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and in every country i worked in, my salary, technically, went throguh the fucking roof
21-09-07 19:21:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: even though my take home pay wound up being pretty much the same
21-09-07 19:21:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i mean, exactly the same
21-09-07 19:22:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: maybe things have changed since then, but in my experience, eu definitely has a higher income tax. i remember checking the brackets for germany and theyre pretty uh..progressive
21-09-07 19:23:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i guess the idea is that if youre going to make six fogures, you probably dont desperately need all of the money above those six, considering how much the govt does for you
21-09-07 19:23:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, if your company did the math, they could have just been telling you your "gross income", and your take-home, and just made up the numbers to make you think they were being extremely generous when in fact they were screwing you over.
21-09-07 19:23:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: no crisis i do not see how that is possible
21-09-07 19:28:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Of course not, silly me.
21-09-07 19:29:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: well that sounds sarcastic. like you're sure you're right.
21-09-07 19:29:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, I feel pretty confident that it's not _impossible_.
21-09-07 19:30:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but considering i've gone over the paperwork, and these countries really were paid that amount in tax, i dont see how my company would have been able to falsify information just to make me think think they were being generous
21-09-07 19:31:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, they, I'm guessing, have professional tax lawyers, and you, I'm guessing, don't, so seems like they have means, motive and opportunity, but whatever.
21-09-07 19:31:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: like, these are legal tax forms. for my company to have lied to me means they had to falsify legal documents
21-09-07 19:31:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: which by the way, they werent even in a position to do since it was done by a third party accounting firm, with me reading and signing shit all the way
21-09-07 19:32:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so it might be that in this case crisis, i have first hand knowledge that lets me conclusively and correctly state that your suggestion is not possible
21-09-07 19:32:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Okay.
21-09-07 19:44:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: this is why it's important that it's your corporation in a low tax state that gets paid instead of you.
21-09-07 19:44:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: places like texas or ireland
21-09-07 19:46:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the maldives
21-09-07 20:09:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: mars
21-09-07 20:12:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: get yo ass to mars
21-09-07 20:52:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: property taxes in mars might be cheap, but gas prices are exorbitant
21-09-07 20:53:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: lack of ample hydrocarbons?
21-09-07 20:54:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Barsoom Co monopoly
21-09-07 20:54:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hmmm couple of papers on the subject
21-09-07 21:02:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I've claimed mars mine already
21-09-07 21:02:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: have a paper that says so
21-09-07 21:03:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: signed
21-09-07 21:14:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i get that things that are exotic have an appeal
21-09-07 21:14:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and what is more exotic than another planet
21-09-07 21:14:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but mars is literally more hostile than antarctica
21-09-07 21:14:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's better than living on an actual asteroid, but in practical terms, not *much* better
21-09-07 21:15:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: in both cases you'll be mostly inside your habitat, not strolling around outside
21-09-07 21:16:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so for all practical purposes, living on mars would be like living in an antarctic research station, with a little less gravity and almost no chance of ever being on earth again
21-09-07 21:17:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i would definitely live and work in mcmurdo for the experience of it, despite it being a hardship post
21-09-07 21:17:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I'd totally move to mars
21-09-07 21:17:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but im not attracted to living in such a place for the rest of my life
21-09-07 21:24:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: however long that may be
21-09-07 21:34:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: by the power of grayskull
21-09-07 21:36:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: <3 <3 <3
21-09-07 21:36:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: michan
21-09-07 21:36:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: moochan
21-09-07 21:53:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: the last of the moochans has cool votes on IMDB
21-09-07 22:34:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that may be subtly racist
21-09-08 00:16:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: tired
21-09-08 07:22:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cron (WileyMUD in I3)@Iberia: I3 Activity on 2021-09-07: 98 messages from 10 speakers.  Logs at http://wileymud.themud.org/~wiley/log/
21-09-08 09:27:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: No one can "claim" another planet withouth know her true name.
21-09-08 10:45:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: where's that written?
21-09-08 11:11:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it is known
21-09-08 11:24:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Winter is coming.
21-09-08 11:24:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Holy Mother of Dragons, it really IS!!!1!
21-09-08 12:45:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: today is a dexter day
21-09-08 12:46:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i only got 4 hours of sleep
21-09-08 12:46:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i will be intolerably tired and impaired
21-09-08 13:21:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: you'll be normal at i3
21-09-08 21:01:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-53692435
21-09-08 21:02:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: please add a NSFW tag to any BBC links
21-09-08 21:40:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: thats a bit clickbaitey
21-09-08 21:40:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the movie itself i clearly not 8about* that
21-09-08 21:40:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and if there was one character that was supposed to be coded that way, ok, but they killed them off so...
21-09-08 22:47:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: There was a recent theory that the Disney movie "Luca" was secretly about gay relationships. It wasn't -that- much of a stretch so you're left with "hmm, yeah I can maybe see that", but the creators avidly denied that intent. Here, we have a movie creator who is stating their ulterior motive but with zero evidence to support them. If that was their intent, they did a really poor job of communicating it.
21-09-08 23:03:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I guess loads of trans people understanding it as a trans allegory doesn't count as evidence?
21-09-08 23:03:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Hey, fun fact about feminising HRT; the pills used to be red.
21-09-08 23:19:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: loads of people take horse dewormer
21-09-08 23:20:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: lookit, if the filmmaker wants to believe that the movie was about their identity all along, im not gonnaargue with her
21-09-08 23:21:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but i dont see it because it it really was that, she did a shit job of it
21-09-08 23:35:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: https://www.imdb.com/video/vi307739417?playlistId=tt0102250&ref_=tt_pr_ov_vi
21-09-08 23:35:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: maybe you just have a hard time getting emotionally erect
21-09-08 23:43:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: ever since the Matrix was released, the Wachowskis have been working hard to convince the world that it really wasn't all that good
21-09-09 00:05:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: +1 to a group of people believing something doesn't imply the evidence is there. However, I'd love to know more about the evidence - it may be too subtle, or require more context that I don't have. So far, it's not obvious.
21-09-09 00:10:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: didn't the Wachowskis say the Matrix was a metaphor for transitioning genders back only a few years after the Matrix movies originally came out?
21-09-09 00:11:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: I seem to recall reading that 15 years ago or so
21-09-09 00:18:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: seems like a pretty straightforward Chosen One Saving the World and Awakening the Sleepers story
21-09-09 00:19:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i mean, i'd be happy to hear details of the transitioning thing
21-09-09 00:20:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but if the metaphor is "awakening to your true self" then i got news for a large number of filmmakers out there that didnt realize they were making a trans movie
21-09-09 00:24:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: a story can be more than one thing
21-09-09 00:24:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: it's quite obviously Chosen One/White Savior on the surface
21-09-09 00:26:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: agreed
21-09-09 00:26:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and if you can explain to me how the matrix is about coming out as trans im happy to listen
21-09-09 00:26:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: im just saying i dont see it
21-09-09 00:28:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: the red pill/blue pill thing, with two different realities
21-09-09 00:29:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ok im gonna say that has an entire panoply of possible metaphorical meanings
21-09-09 00:29:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but if the one you pick is trans, ok
21-09-09 00:29:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: and the character Switch was always cited as being a hint/some idealized representation of who Lana Wachowski wanted to be or something
21-09-09 00:29:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: they killed her in the first 20 minutes
21-09-09 00:29:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: no, she died 90 minutes in
21-09-09 00:29:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: s/he
21-09-09 00:29:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: my bad. she got 5 lines instead of 4
21-09-09 00:30:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: such a meaningful part
21-09-09 00:30:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: I agree the red pill/blue pill thing with two different realities could apply as a metaphor to a lot of things, but if the filmmakers, who were struggling with their gender identities at the time of making the movies and later transitioned said, not long after the movies were made, that they did intend the metaphor to be that thing....why doubt them?
21-09-09 00:31:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: like i said, if thats what they want to believe, cool
21-09-09 00:31:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i just think they did a shitty job of making the movie about transitioning if thats really what they had in mind
21-09-09 00:31:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: and it's entirely possible that the studio diluted that particular element of their vision
21-09-09 00:32:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: speculative
21-09-09 00:32:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: yes, supposition
21-09-09 00:32:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i will compare with stanley kubrick
21-09-09 00:32:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: Matrix came out in 1998, transgenderism was a late night talk show joke back then
21-09-09 00:32:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: there is a theory that the shining is really about the white man's murder of native americans
21-09-09 00:32:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: wouldn't you need to ask Stephen King that?
21-09-09 00:33:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i've read some of it, it is very detailed and some of it is very interesting and compelling
21-09-09 00:33:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: well kubrick had his own vision he imposed on the narrative
21-09-09 00:33:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: *shrugs* okay...if he said that was his vision, so be it
21-09-09 00:33:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so so here's the thing, it sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me and kubrick never said thats what he was doing
21-09-09 00:33:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but if you look hard enough, you can see how you can make the metaphors talk that way
21-09-09 00:34:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: I suppose credibility of his statement depends on the amount of time elapsed between the making of the film and the making of the statement
21-09-09 00:34:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that's how the trans matrix thing strikes me
21-09-09 00:34:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: see my point prior about the Wachowskis making a statement about the Matrix transgender metaphor 15 years ago
21-09-09 00:34:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yeah you can look at it until you make it conform to that
21-09-09 00:34:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but it's pretty fucking far from unambiguous
21-09-09 00:35:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: again, stories can be a lot of things, and they don't always have to be obvious and unambiguous
21-09-09 00:35:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but hey, if thats what they believe about their movie, im not gonn aargue with them
21-09-09 00:35:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: reminds me a bit of hermn melville and moby dick
21-09-09 00:35:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: I've done my share of writing and included metaphorical elements and social commentary that is lost on 99% of readers unless it's explained (and perhaps even still then)
21-09-09 00:35:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: apparently he didnt know it was an allegorical tale until it was pointed out to him
21-09-09 00:36:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: maybe they subconsciously injected some spin into it without thinking about it, and in retrospect they see what they did
21-09-09 00:36:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that's cool, man, i get ther
21-09-09 00:36:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: why are you trying so hard to dispute what artists claim as the vision for their work?
21-09-09 00:36:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but the movie itself, outside their post-facto interpretation, doesnt really have that
21-09-09 00:36:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: I'm not sure I grok your angle
21-09-09 00:37:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: well its like saying if lucas says greedo shot first, then it is so
21-09-09 00:37:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i mean, no
21-09-09 00:38:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: and why can't you just use discord like a normal person? :(
21-09-09 00:38:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: or whats his name soiling blade runner by insisting deckard was a replicant all along
21-09-09 00:38:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i mean, no
21-09-09 00:38:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: or jk rowling insisting dumbledore was gay all along
21-09-09 00:38:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: sister, if thats what you meant, you sure as fuck didnt write it
21-09-09 00:39:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's too late now to revise that shit
21-09-09 00:42:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: also every filmmaking decision the wachowskis made after the matrix has been pure shit
21-09-09 00:43:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so im not inclined to believe they accidentally made matrix a decent movie
21-09-09 00:43:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: s/not//
21-09-09 00:45:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: to be fair, only the first Matrix movie was decent
21-09-09 00:45:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: the other two were kinda ehhhhh....
21-09-09 00:45:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: we'll see about this new one
21-09-09 00:45:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the other two were shit
21-09-09 00:45:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: but I'm not sure how the quality of their movies factors into what their intended vision was
21-09-09 00:46:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: they accidentally made one good movie
21-09-09 00:47:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: im disinclined to believe that in this accidental stroke of luck they managed to intentionally insert a subtle message that had to be explained years later for anyone to see it
21-09-09 00:48:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's a little more likely that in their transitioning to a different identity they now see everything in their past through a different lens
21-09-09 00:49:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and that's fine, good for them
21-09-09 00:49:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but dont tell me greedo shot first
21-09-09 00:55:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: not only are you comparing apples to oranges with the Greedo shot first joke (because anything George Lucas says can be safely ignored as dumbassery), you're making the flawed assumption that the Wachowskis (or any transgender people) suddenly see through a different lens after transitioning, like it's some discrete Switch, whereas most people who transition realize very early in life that they are at odds with their gender identity
21-09-09 00:57:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i mean, ok, it's possible kubrick was talking about the slaughter of ntive americans, and if thats what the movie meant to him, swell
21-09-09 00:57:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it just sounds like bs to me
21-09-09 00:57:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and this does too
21-09-09 00:58:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: again, when did Kubrik claim that in relation to when The Shining was released?
21-09-09 00:58:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: that's your best litmus test
21-09-09 00:58:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: he didnt im just making a comparison
21-09-09 00:58:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: its not a test
21-09-09 00:58:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: its an example of a thing you *could* read into a movie if you really wanted to
21-09-09 00:59:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: what I'm saying is that if an artist makes a non-obvious claim about the vision of their work decades after the fact, I definitely buy your argument about it either being bullshit or they're looking at their past through a different lens
21-09-09 00:59:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: but if they make the claim close after the work is released, I see no reason to doubt
21-09-09 01:00:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ok well they subtly snuck into their movie an extremely vague theme about transitioning to your proper gender by having the protagonist "wake up to his true purpose" and having an androgynous minor character. wtg, wachows. strike a blow for trans rights
21-09-09 01:03:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: *shrugs* nobody said metaphors and other deeper meanings of a work had to be obvious or stand as a beacon spotlighting some group or issue
21-09-09 01:04:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: sometimes they're just for the artist and/or a small number of people who will pick up on it
21-09-09 01:04:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: im just saying if thats what they were doing, they didnt do a good job. that's some weak shit
21-09-09 01:04:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: even with a full spotlight on it, it's weak
21-09-09 01:04:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: to you
21-09-09 01:04:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ok
21-09-09 01:05:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: I'm tired of typing igossip before all the attempts to tell you you're wrong
21-09-09 01:05:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: I'ma just sic Z on you
21-09-09 01:06:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: im just telling you what it looks liek to me
21-09-09 01:06:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: either revisionism or the weakest ass attempt at subtext
21-09-09 01:06:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i get that you have written stuff other people dont get
21-09-09 01:07:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but we're looking full blast at what supposedly represents that subtext nad man it is truly barely there
21-09-09 01:10:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: Racist
21-09-09 01:10:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: Activate Agent Z, form of...Social Justice Warrior
21-09-09 01:10:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: Strike down the Cratylus
21-09-09 01:22:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: so what happened to Zuko's mom???
21-09-09 01:24:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: heh
21-09-09 01:24:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: well
21-09-09 01:24:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: in the show itself we dont know
21-09-09 01:24:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but there is a whole backstory in some comic book or whatever
21-09-09 01:46:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: so imagine that after 100 years of war, and exterminating 1/4th of the world, the nazis had won the war, but after his victory Hitler had said: conquering is not enough, now I'm going to burn it all, and then by some act of God a little boy defeats him
21-09-09 01:47:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: and then the nazis get another leader who is a frenemy of the little boy and now all is forgiven ?
21-09-09 01:48:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: the ending has a certain narrative problem
21-09-09 01:55:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: well
21-09-09 01:55:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i dont 100% disagree with you but
21-09-09 01:55:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the world was pretty sick of war
21-09-09 01:56:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: having the fire nation just fucking stop killing people was progress
21-09-09 01:56:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and
21-09-09 01:56:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: spoilers
21-09-09 01:57:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it seems that much of the world could simply ignore the war except for the occasional fire army hooligans demanding loot
21-09-09 01:57:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: this show is 100 years old, I was the last person on earth who hadn't seen it
21-09-09 01:57:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's a pretty good show
21-09-09 01:57:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: second to last
21-09-09 01:57:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: my kids made me watch it a year or two ago
21-09-09 01:57:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: we then watched the sequel, legend of korra
21-09-09 01:57:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: worth it ?
21-09-09 01:58:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: atla is a better show but lok is more nuanced. the hero is quite flawed and undergoes trauma and acts like she has undergone trauma
21-09-09 01:59:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the one thing i disliked about lok is that each season was another Villain of the Season We Have to Defeat
21-09-09 01:59:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but if you can take that in stride as just a narrative trope it's ok, especially if you watch with your kids
21-09-09 02:00:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh and lok is an example of a show that has a subtext that is never explicitly stated but inarguable at the end
21-09-09 02:03:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: I guess I'll find out
21-09-09 02:04:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: +1
21-09-09 02:05:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: there is this pervasive trope in shows where the heroes plow through thousands of henchpersons on their multi season quest to get the boss, and then when they finally defeat the boss, they can't lower themselves to his level and they spare him
21-09-09 02:05:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: that trope is a bad trope
21-09-09 02:05:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hmmmm
21-09-09 02:05:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: spare the henchpersons, not the boss
21-09-09 02:05:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: was atla the one with the lady that shot shit from her head
21-09-09 02:06:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ok im not gonna spoil but i will say
21-09-09 02:06:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: in atla, sparing people was aang's way
21-09-09 02:06:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that's part of his identity, it makes sense in the story
21-09-09 02:06:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: he killed like one dude, and that was in avatar form, and its not 100% sure he died
21-09-09 02:07:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: let's just say lok doesnt feature this
21-09-09 02:09:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: last night, I dreamed I was in a kind of job interview bootcamp
21-09-09 02:09:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: it was shitty sleep, woke up at 3.45am and couldn't get back to sleep
21-09-09 02:10:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: so now I have a T.rex
21-09-09 02:10:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oooh exctiting
21-09-09 02:10:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: theyre easier to tame than theris, oddly enough
21-09-09 02:11:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: prime meat is easier to get than kibble
21-09-09 02:11:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: tell me about it
21-09-09 02:11:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: my main base is now near the center cave, and im swamped with alpha rexes, carnos, and raptors
21-09-09 02:11:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i literally have more cooked prime than cooked regular meat
21-09-09 02:12:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but using prime to tame takes a long time
21-09-09 02:12:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and i dont liek my ass hanging out in the wild while waiting forever for a tame
21-09-09 02:12:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so i prioritize getting eggs for kibbs
21-09-09 02:12:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: why do you make a base in torture alley
21-09-09 02:12:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's so fucking dangerous out here bro
21-09-09 02:13:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but this is where the rexes and megatheria are
21-09-09 02:13:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and i need to catch them fuckies in order to have soldiers to go against the bosses
21-09-09 02:13:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: time to go back to sleep bootcamp
21-09-09 02:13:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: besides, after dozens of gruesome deaths, i finally have a well protevted fort
21-09-09 02:13:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ight nite
21-09-09 04:10:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Am (ShadowMUD in I3)@Iberia: Critical thinking.  Is Biden right in the 5 year plan?  Should we have just give money under the table to Taliban since they were going to take control whenever we left or should we have tried harder to incite a better civil war when leaving Afghanistan?
21-09-09 04:13:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Am (ShadowMUD in I3)@Iberia: and yes, I took a shortcut in English grammer to avoid a subject verb tense agreement. Sorry.  The noun needed to be present tense but the verb in past.
21-09-09 04:16:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Am (ShadowMUD in I3)@Iberia: I think we should have left in 2005, about 2 years into it when we realized all we were doing was pausing a civil war between 2 muslim factions, a small cristian, and a moderately sized agnostic/a-religious amount of people.
21-09-09 11:16:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: foo
21-09-09 12:19:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: https://i.imgur.com/6JQTdLF.png
21-09-09 12:31:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i think leaving shortly after nailing whats his name would have been good
21-09-09 14:14:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: why the duck does my shin hurt from running
21-09-09 14:14:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: tis there even a muscle or tendon there ?
21-09-09 14:14:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: what bullshizm is this
21-09-09 16:00:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hi
21-09-09 16:00:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I missed the trans convo
21-09-09 16:00:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but thanks for having it
21-09-09 16:03:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I think it's entirely possible for the end result not to communicate what you wanted it to communicate originally due to many intentional or non-intentional factors
21-09-09 16:04:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but the real point to argue is whether the end result as a stand-alone, with no external context about directorial intent or otherwise, strongly communicates that very specific message
21-09-09 16:05:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it is my opinion that the Matrix doesnt' specifically speak to sexual transitioning, but I can agree it speaks to metamorphosis in general
21-09-09 16:05:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ploosk (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: aha I suspected this was Matrix based
21-09-09 16:06:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ploosk (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: having missed all the earlier convo and piecing it together from just what you're saying
21-09-09 16:06:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: for those people who find themselves at odds with their sexuality, I believe it's natural to equate metamorphosis to sexuality
21-09-09 16:07:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but that requires a subjective interpretation, because other people who feel that they're at odds with other aspects of themselves (sexual preference, religious identification, political spin) may equate the general transformation message to their own circumstance
21-09-09 16:07:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I recommend, dear Ploosk, to read some of the history - as Crat and Lyanic had a semi-interesting conversation about this
21-09-09 16:08:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I feel left out so I'm just overly compensating my thoughts into thevoid
21-09-09 16:09:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I'm not sure what your argument is here, tho', Sini.
21-09-09 16:09:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: do you talk to trans people regularly or are you just quixing about something you know quix about?
21-09-09 16:09:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ploosk (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: I tried but the channel history doesn't go far back enough here :(
21-09-09 16:09:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: huh, well no, I can't really relate to the perspective of someone who is trans watching the Matrix
21-09-09 16:10:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: You're claiming that a movie made by two trans film makers that has been recognised as a trans allegory by a lot of trans people, and which has been confirmed by said creators as being a trans allegory is somehow not a trans allegory, _ACSHSUYALLY_?
21-09-09 16:10:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but I don't always subscribe to the "are you [this]? If not, then you have no opinion"
21-09-09 16:12:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: No, my argument is that a movie made by two trans film makers that has been recognised as a trans allegory by a lot of trans people, and whichhas been confirmed by said creators as being a trans allegory could have done a much better job of being specific about the trans allegory because it's so subtly packed in a generic message that for someone that doesn't know that the movie is made by two trans film makers or that it has been recognised as a trans allegory by a lot of trans people, or that it has been confirmed by said creators as being a trans allegory then it is not obvious that it was a trans allegory
21-09-09 16:12:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and that's my argument
21-09-09 16:13:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Except that trans people haven't had any problems recognising it as a trans allegory.
21-09-09 16:15:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: It's hard to prove how hard or difficult that's been, though - it may very well be that they realized this as a meme after the fact that it's been revealed to them. And by meme, I mean a nugget of information transmitted from person to person.
21-09-09 16:15:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Anyways, I concede that my perspective is now, "huh, well they should have made it more obvious if it was that specific"
21-09-09 16:16:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: also, not being trans, I can't really vouch for how it speaks to trans people without context
21-09-09 16:16:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that's much less quixy, thank you
21-09-09 16:17:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ploosk (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: where is Quix anyway
21-09-09 16:18:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: stalking us from the comfort of not having to interact with real humans
21-09-09 16:18:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ploosk (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: did he finally realise the most efficient way to never have a correct opinion was just to stop posting
21-09-09 16:18:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: There's quixiness here but it's not from me, my friends
21-09-09 16:19:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: he reads the i3 logs and has his little arguments in his head with himself so he can pretend he's right
21-09-09 16:19:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: crap
21-09-09 16:19:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: host crash, snapshot corrupted.  I had to cold boot all over again
21-09-09 16:19:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I do want to point out that there's two Quixy arguments here that I don't subject to: "You have no opinion because you're not [that]" and "but a ton of people consider it to be so, so you must be wrong"
21-09-09 16:19:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: ...sounds like I dodged a bullet though but losing all my virtual uptime wasn't worth it
21-09-09 16:19:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: both arguments have now been used in this conversation as counterpoints to my argument
21-09-09 16:20:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: those are not the arguments being used as counterpoints to your argument
21-09-09 16:20:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: maybe you need to backscroll all the way back to yessudah
21-09-09 16:20:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: that will be hard on account of my mud's host crashing
21-09-09 16:20:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the counterpoint is "why are you dismissing the input of people about a thing that relates to themselfs?"
21-09-09 16:20:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: I'll have to go to the wileymud logs
21-09-09 16:21:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ploosk (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: maybe it's time to reveal I was Quix all along
21-09-09 16:21:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ploosk (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: a long form troll that I grew tired of keeping up
21-09-09 16:21:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that statement surfaces a deep misunderstanding as to what my point is
21-09-09 16:21:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ploosk, you cheeking nando, you could never be
21-09-09 16:21:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: because, at least from my perspective, I'm definitely not dismissing the input of people about a thing that relates to themselves
21-09-09 16:22:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: what I'm saying is, "I don't see it, but I'd love to understand why other people do"
21-09-09 16:22:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so saying "but you're not [this] and tons of other people say they see it so just shut up" is not a good way to discuss here
21-09-09 16:24:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Well, I have good news for you: Here's one of loads of essays breaking down why and how people see it that way: https://youtu.be/_WyO6vVgL-M
21-09-09 16:24:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: fantastic
21-09-09 16:24:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: thanks, I'll save this to watch later
21-09-09 16:25:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: even after watching, I do warn that my opinion could still be "huh, well I guess... but they could have done a better job"
21-09-09 16:25:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: such is the burden of an artist - some people might not get you
21-09-09 16:25:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ploosk (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: alright fair cop guv ya got me I'm a proper cheeky nando me
21-09-09 16:26:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I mean... if I watch a movie that is in french with no subtitles and you tell me what it's about and I don't agree... and then you ask me if I speak french and I say "no, but they could've done a better job if that was really what it was supposed to be about..."
21-09-09 16:28:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ploosk (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: (now I'm craving a cheeky nando you fucker)
21-09-09 16:28:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I'm not sure your analogy applies here, as the Matrix isn't something done in a medium or delivery format that I (or millions of non-trans people) don't understand
21-09-09 16:28:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: (me too, ploosky, me too.)
21-09-09 16:28:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ploosk (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: I actually watched a movie in french with no subtitles multiple times
21-09-09 16:29:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it can be in a language you understand and still not be in a language you understand, sini
21-09-09 16:29:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ploosk (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: and then watched it with subs and it turned out my interpretation of the story and everything was completely off
21-09-09 16:29:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ploosk (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: anyway that's my french film story thanks for listenint
21-09-09 16:31:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Z, your argument is reducing this to "you're not [french] so you shouldn't have an opinion about what the movie is about" instead of "you're not [french], and you should watch this movie with subtitles but I'm not going to bother to give you the subtitles so I'm just going to tell you you're wrong"
21-09-09 16:31:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I just want the subtitles, man
21-09-09 16:31:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Wanting subtitles is fair, but, uh, that's what Lana Wachowski is giving you.
21-09-09 16:32:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: But you seem to be rejecting it out of hand, so IDK man, sounds like the problem isn't that you want subtitles.
21-09-09 16:32:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: she's giving me a single sentence, though
21-09-09 16:32:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: "this movie was about a heist"
21-09-09 16:32:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: "ooh, I'd like to enjoy it with subtitles 'cause It hought it was a drama about family conflict"
21-09-09 16:33:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I'll watch the youtube video later, that may have the subtitles I'm asking for
21-09-09 16:34:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: btw "it's not obvious to me, I may be missing something or they might have done a poor job of communicating that message" isn't rejecting the "the Wachowskis intended this to be a trans allegory"
21-09-09 16:40:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: wow
21-09-09 16:41:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i dont think sini is dismissing anything
21-09-09 16:41:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: there is some quixing going on here and it aint from sini
21-09-09 16:42:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i think it is super fair to say that a movie about a non-gender-based transformation/awakening could mean a lot of things to a lot of people, and if you happen to be trans, maybe that's how it speaks to you, but if it isnt specifically about trans people, and it's *supposed* to be, maybe it should have been clearer
21-09-09 16:43:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and "maybe it could have been clearer" is not the same as "i am dismissing trans people and their opinions"
21-09-09 16:43:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: jeepers creepers
21-09-09 16:44:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: like, if switch had been the main protagonists, you'd get a little closer to it
21-09-09 16:44:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: if switch had been male IRL and female in the matrix, closer still
21-09-09 16:44:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: or vice versa i guess
21-09-09 16:45:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: as it is, it sounds a little revisionist, but sure. if thats what they wachowskis say it is to them, chi sono io per judicare
21-09-09 17:05:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: I used to think Matrix was a brilliant, modern, genre defining master piece
21-09-09 17:06:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: but all the subsequent actions by its makers, the terrible sequels, the convoluted fan theories they post-endorsed, made me realize it was just a fluke. They made something meh, and we read brilliance between the lines because we wanted to and the time for it was right
21-09-09 17:06:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: thats what i said yesterday
21-09-09 17:07:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: some people say they've made another sequel, but I'm sure everyone with a sense of taste will ignore it
21-09-09 17:07:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: they are terrible filmmakers. the matrix apparently was good by accident
21-09-09 17:07:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: i mean, it was brilliant in the same was as star wars
21-09-09 17:07:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ok let me clarify, they are very technically proficiaent
21-09-09 17:07:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the new movie isn't "they" it's only Lana
21-09-09 17:07:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: they know where to put cameras and how to make things look good
21-09-09 17:08:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: objectively meh, but we weren't being objective because the time for it and our age at the time were just right
21-09-09 17:08:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but matrix 2 and 3 were good looking garbage
21-09-09 17:08:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: I have unseen them from my mind
21-09-09 17:09:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: i can do that, I have a bad memory for movies, if I don't periodically refresh the memory it goes away
21-09-09 17:09:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: kind of like prometheus actually
21-09-09 17:09:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: never heard of it
21-09-09 17:09:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that movie is so good looking you want to lick it
21-09-09 17:09:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but boy oh boy is it trash
21-09-09 17:10:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: I used to think Pulp Fiction was a brilliant, genre defining master piece
21-09-09 17:11:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: and it still fucking is
21-09-09 17:11:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: I'm not just getting old and jaded
21-09-09 17:11:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so when a couple of fimlmmakers seem incapable of making coherent and properly structured films except for theit very first one, it makes me wonder how intentional their success on that first one was
21-09-09 17:11:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: its creator respected it and never shat on it
21-09-09 17:11:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: pulp fiction is a great film
21-09-09 17:11:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: reservoir dogs is too, ifn you ask me
21-09-09 17:12:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i liked kill bill a little less but it was still a good movie
21-09-09 17:13:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: btw i looked it up and it seems youre right. default difficulty settings cap dino levels on vanilla at 120, and that is the very far end of the bell curve, meaning in practical terms you'll rarely even see an 80
21-09-09 17:13:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: what no, they cap at 30
21-09-09 17:14:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: and you can theoretically advance them 88 levels
21-09-09 17:14:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: even worse then
21-09-09 17:14:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but i am reluctant to jack up difficulty on a server my kid plays on
21-09-09 17:14:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: :(
21-09-09 17:14:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: im gearing up to fight the broodmother. let's hope that 17 megatheria around level 60 can get the job done
21-09-09 17:15:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i am not optimistic :(
21-09-09 17:15:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: by Odin's balls
21-09-09 17:15:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i will pro9bably lose all those tames AND their saddles
21-09-09 17:15:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: (fucking expensive saddles)
21-09-09 17:15:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: do you have a script for taming those motherduckers ?
21-09-09 17:15:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh i recently got into giant bear traps
21-09-09 17:15:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: they are super awesome
21-09-09 17:15:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: then don't put saddles on them, you can only ride one at a time
21-09-09 17:16:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: saddles are armor for tames
21-09-09 17:16:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: if theyre gonna fight, saddle them
21-09-09 17:17:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i fly around with giant bear traps. if i see a megatherium i land, freeze my bird, lay down a minefield of bear traps
21-09-09 17:17:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: put the field between me and the sloth, and start shooting tranqs
21-09-09 17:17:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i use shocking tranqs now so i dont need as many but it should also work with regular darts
21-09-09 17:17:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: mega gets tangle up in traps, you have plenty of time to knock him out before he gets to you
21-09-09 17:18:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: what do you use to hunt those jellyfish ?
21-09-09 17:18:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: wear flippers and use the the crossbow. stay close to shore
21-09-09 17:18:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: megatheria shuffle around in the redwood area, you can take potshots at them from a treehouse
21-09-09 17:18:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: swim backwards and shoot them with xbow.
21-09-09 17:18:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: stay close enough to the shore that you can walk away if they get too close
21-09-09 17:19:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: anyway once the sloth is asleep, deploy a couple of theirs to watch your back
21-09-09 17:19:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the forest is a dengerous place
21-09-09 17:19:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: just sit in the tree house
21-09-09 17:20:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: then tame as appropriate. i use kibble so im usually done within 10 minutes. if you use berries you will definietely need to deploy a few bodyguards and build some standing torches
21-09-09 17:20:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: biggest lesson learned is
21-09-09 17:20:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: keep the fucking theris away from the sleeper
21-09-09 17:20:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: they have long sharp claws
21-09-09 17:20:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ive had my bodyguards accidentally kill my sleeper more than once while protecting me
21-09-09 19:50:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: sometimes my sleep kills me
21-09-09 19:53:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: schloop
21-09-09 19:58:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i always wonder
21-09-09 19:58:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: who wrote the book of love?
21-09-09 19:58:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the people who kick and scream and demand their ask be placed ahead of mountains of work and spend 2 weeks going back and forth then go on vacation mid-email thread and then come back and change their mind on the original ask
21-09-09 19:58:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i wonder if those people think they're great to work with
21-09-09 19:59:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: like "yeah, you know i'm really good at my job, i bet the infrastructure team loves me"
21-09-09 19:59:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i wonder if they think that
21-09-09 19:59:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: "this is how I need to be to get things done. I don't care if it makes people happy as long as they do what I ask them to do."
21-09-09 20:00:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so wasting peoples' time is okay
21-09-09 20:00:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: nothing got done
21-09-09 20:00:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: swear to fuck any time someone in europe gets looped in on a project email thread, you can guarandamntee if they're needed to answer a question, their next reply will be an out of office email
21-09-09 20:01:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: 900% of the time
21-09-09 20:01:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: anyhoo
21-09-09 20:01:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hello friends
21-09-09 20:02:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: hail santa
21-09-09 20:02:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: sometimes these people don't understand the impact that credibility loss has on their future requests
21-09-09 20:03:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ie, if they don't take the time to be considerate and supportive of the request, then the next one won't be given the urgency they need
21-09-09 20:03:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I've dealt with this for countless generations
21-09-09 20:07:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: maybe the real cishet gatekeeping of trans narratives was the frens we met along the way
21-09-09 20:09:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: Oh, NOW you deploy, Agent Z...
21-09-09 20:09:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Come now, Zaphod, saying that cis people sounding off about how trans stories need to be clearer and written for _their_ benefit isn't gatekeeping narratives, because, you know, of _reasons_.
21-09-09 20:10:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: If you think about it, these transes have only invented this narrative of their own experiences in response to the Wachowski sisters talking about their movies now.
21-09-09 20:10:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: They don't have _memories_ of this, it's just, you know invented.
21-09-09 20:11:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: As anyone with a superior cis brain who watches movies good can tell in an instant.
21-09-09 20:12:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Because, again, _reasons_.
21-09-09 20:12:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: such bigly reasons
21-09-09 20:13:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: im sure that's what i said, yeah
21-09-09 20:13:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: anyway i watched the video
21-09-09 20:13:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it occurred to me you could use the same reasoning to say it's a story about being gay
21-09-09 20:18:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i liked her pointing out that the good guys were basically a united nations / benetton thing, and the bad guys were all crisply suited white men
21-09-09 20:19:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Ah, yes, being gay, that thing that is famously unlike being trans in every important respect.
21-09-09 20:19:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but i think that leaves hanging out there in the air the question of where the black dudes, for example, fit in to the trans narrative
21-09-09 20:19:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and it occurred to me that the movie lends itself well to any class based power differential struggle
21-09-09 20:19:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you can map anything onto it
21-09-09 20:19:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: including being trans
21-09-09 20:20:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: thats a perfectly cromulent lens through which to watch the movie
21-09-09 20:20:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: another would be the struggle of the proletariat
21-09-09 20:20:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, yeah, these are all the same thing.
21-09-09 20:21:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: That's what intersectionality is.
21-09-09 20:21:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's such a generic template of oppressed good guys versus powerful black guys that your could very validly assert it's a treatise on imperialism
21-09-09 20:21:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: That's an interesting slip, that "bad guys" became "black guys".
21-09-09 20:22:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: well they have black suits
21-09-09 20:22:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so
21-09-09 20:22:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: anyway as ive been saying for two days now
21-09-09 20:22:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: im not gonna say it shouldnt mean the trans thing to trans people
21-09-09 20:22:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: by all means
21-09-09 20:23:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: im just saying that this doesnt strike me as the default intentional message of the movie
21-09-09 20:23:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: You know, this is really my fault.
21-09-09 20:23:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ok
21-09-09 20:23:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I keep forgetting that you are an utterly exhausting not serious person that's not worth talking to, but I fall into this trap every fucking time.
21-09-09 20:24:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: huh
21-09-09 20:24:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: well im sorry you have to make it personal
21-09-09 20:24:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: My L, Crat.
21-09-09 20:24:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: wiat
21-09-09 20:24:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: kinda sad you need to lash out like this
21-09-09 20:24:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: we're making matrix about transness
21-09-09 20:24:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: heh
21-09-09 20:24:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: because the director is trans
21-09-09 20:24:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that's kind of a stretch
21-09-09 20:24:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ok sali you take over, i need to do an errand
21-09-09 20:25:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: nah i make a point of not spending mental energy on things that make me sad anymore
21-09-09 20:25:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Yeah, it's such a stretch that The Matrix is about transness just because both co-directors are trans, and trans people have, since day one, seen it as a trans allegory, and one of the co-director has come out and said it's a trans allegory.
21-09-09 20:25:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Fucking wackadoo shit all up ins.
21-09-09 20:25:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Complete unfounded nonsense on the face of it.
21-09-09 20:25:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: big question: who cares
21-09-09 20:26:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: let it be about that for you if you want to
21-09-09 20:26:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and don't if you don't
21-09-09 20:26:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the end
21-09-09 20:26:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I do, sali. I do.
21-09-09 20:27:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: That's nice in theory, but there is a pervasive feature in our culture where trans (and other queer) experiences of the world are minimised, and wherever possible rejected or hidden outright, in the interest of serving the overarching project of uniform patriarchal hegemony.
21-09-09 20:27:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: maybe if neo woke up in the real world as trinity that'd make more sense
21-09-09 20:27:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: otherwise just stfu and quitcher bitchin about things that don't affect you
21-09-09 20:27:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: And specifically a problem where trans experiences are not seen as valid or worthwhile unless they can be commodified and sold _to cis people_.
21-09-09 20:28:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: And this _does_ affect me.
21-09-09 20:28:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: everything doesn't need to be for you
21-09-09 20:28:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: nor does it need to be for me
21-09-09 20:28:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: there'
21-09-09 20:28:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: s enough stuff for everyone
21-09-09 20:28:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hey, you hear that
21-09-09 20:28:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, there _is_ enough stuff for everyone, but a lot of systems have been set up to prevent everyone from equal access to said stuff.
21-09-09 20:28:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's me leaving
21-09-09 20:28:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: bye, sali
21-09-09 20:29:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I acknowlege and support you and your hidden disability even if our ableist society makes your life way more difficult than it needs to be
21-09-09 20:29:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Also, I mean, this is stuff that affects me/
21-09-09 20:30:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Also, I mean, this is stuff that affects me; the kinds of things we're talking about prevent me, personally, from accessing healthcare and all that.
21-09-09 20:30:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: So, like, I get annoyed.
21-09-09 20:30:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Whatever.
21-09-09 20:30:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Bye, Sali.
21-09-09 20:30:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: in norway? I thot socialized medicine was the bomb
21-09-09 20:31:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, it is, but transphobia is still a huge thing _literally_ everywhere.
21-09-09 20:31:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: On, like, an institutional level.
21-09-09 20:31:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Nowehere is good on that.
21-09-09 20:31:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Except maybe Belgium.
21-09-09 20:40:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yeah, speaking of poland.... jesus, poland... get your shit together
21-09-09 20:42:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, yeah, nowhere is good on it, but some places are... let's be diplomatic and say "bad".
21-09-09 21:17:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Mr Z, Grapevine doesn't get i3 emote packets
21-09-09 21:18:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: so u may have tons of fun but Crisis is ignoring
21-09-09 21:19:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: open a ticket in helpdesk
21-09-09 21:20:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Yeah, I'm not seeing anything before or after the line about Poland.
21-09-09 21:20:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: "I thot socialized medicine was the bomb" and then "speaking of poland..." and then nothing.
21-09-09 21:21:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh, I just said "Zaphod is looking at you, poland"
21-09-09 21:21:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but really there's so many places I could be looking
21-09-09 21:22:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: "Zaphod is looking at you, hungary"
21-09-09 21:22:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Well if Zaphod is looking at you Hungary, why don't they eat?
21-09-09 21:22:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: *rimshot*
21-09-09 21:22:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: zing!
21-09-09 21:24:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: But yeah, the kind of socialised medicine that exists under capitalism is pretty good at the whole "You don't go bankrupt or just die for no reason if you get sick." thing, which is nice.
21-09-09 21:25:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: But if you're trans, or you have certain (read: most invisible and some visible) disabilities, it's just not super great at dealing with that because it often means that there's no clear path to keep you as a cog in the machine of capitalism.
21-09-09 21:26:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Which isn't really a problem with socialised medicine, but a problem with capitalism.
21-09-09 21:27:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: And crucially, is worse in pretty much every respect in the US, to be absolutely clear.
21-09-09 21:44:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: health care should not be rationed in an exclusionary way
21-09-09 21:45:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yet the typical capitalist system knows no other way of doing it
21-09-09 21:45:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: since it isnt really a product, its an essential service like police or firefighting
21-09-09 21:46:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: at least we dont have privatized police and fire departments
21-09-09 21:46:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: much
21-09-09 22:08:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: what needs to be an essential service is stopping all the terrible food choices and the marketing thereof
21-09-09 22:09:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but watcha gona do if it so effectively collects money from a larger to a smaller population
21-09-09 22:24:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: You understand that not every "terrible food choice" is realistically and actually a _choice_, right?
21-09-09 22:24:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Like, you know about things like food deserts and shitty food being cheap and the lack of access to kitchens a lot of people deal with, right?
21-09-09 23:13:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: is there anything crisis wont exhaustively debate
21-09-09 23:13:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i'd like to expose crisis to quix
21-09-09 23:14:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: can we get them on the same channel somehow
21-09-09 23:15:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: anyway crisis what i understood sini to mean is not that he was blaming people for poor choices, but that he is disappointed with the food choices available
21-09-09 23:15:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you should give people benefit of doubt for not being awful human beings from time to time
21-09-09 23:18:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, if that was what Sini meant, they should have been clearer.
21-09-09 23:19:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: good callback, but i got it so maybe the problem istascists like you
21-09-09 23:19:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: The fact that Sini is not being shitty should be accessible as a stand-alone thing, with no external context.
21-09-09 23:20:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: fascists who are destroying the world making it difficult for me blah blah yadda yadda
21-09-09 23:20:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: woe is me if you dont see things like i do you are an unserious monster that is the reason the world is ending
21-09-09 23:20:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: am i close?
21-09-09 23:20:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: No.
21-09-09 23:21:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: maybe closer than you like to admit
21-09-09 23:21:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, I think you're not a serious person, but that doesn't make me a fascist.
21-09-09 23:21:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: all im saying is you dont have to be adversarial 100% of the time crisis
21-09-09 23:21:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Words mean things, Crat, and "I made a mistake for trying to have a conversation with you." isn't a fascist belief.
21-09-09 23:21:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: its like drenching every food in sriracha
21-09-09 23:21:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: there's a time and a place for sriracha
21-09-09 23:22:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Yeah, there's a time and a place for Sriracha, and it's all the time, everywhere, because I'm not a fucking coward.
21-09-09 23:22:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ok something tells me you know there is something wrong but you dont know what to do about it
21-09-09 23:22:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so we can just leave it alone
21-09-09 23:22:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: No, Crat, I'm joking.
21-09-09 23:23:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I obviously don't heap sriracha on everything, as that would be silly.
21-09-09 23:23:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: And I have a pretty clear sense of what is wrong, and what to do about it.
21-09-09 23:23:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: +1
21-09-09 23:24:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I feel powerless and helpless in the face of insitutional barriers to actually carrying out those things, but on the whole, I have pretty clear ideas.
21-09-09 23:24:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Like, I know that an important short- to mid-term goal for me is publishing the salaries of everyone in the company, but I'm not sure how to go about achieveing that, for various reasons.
21-09-09 23:25:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: It's something that I'm trying to figure out, and it vexes me, but I have a pretty clear goal in mind.
21-09-09 23:25:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: im certainly not going to encourage you to commit an illegal act
21-09-09 23:25:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but i think it would be good to have a way for people to know each others salaries
21-09-09 23:27:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I agree.
21-09-09 23:29:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: That said, it worries me that you seem not to have any functional idea of what fascism is.
21-09-09 23:29:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hi
21-09-09 23:30:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Because it's a specific thing.
21-09-09 23:30:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: That you can tell apart from other things.
21-09-09 23:30:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: And it's not "Someone called me a dingus online."
21-09-09 23:30:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Which, to be clear, is what I was doing. You're a dingus, Crat. You're not a serious person, you're a dingus.
21-09-09 23:31:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: And once again I'm caught in this trap, and I really need to examine what in me makes me so vulnerable to your dingusery.
21-09-09 23:33:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: You do seem easily triggered by what many would consider rational conversation; to the point where ad-hominem attacks and textual flagellation are frequent exist strategies
21-09-09 23:33:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I guess I'm saying I agree with you - you do really need to examing what makes you be that way
21-09-09 23:34:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, you could try to repeat the first part of that without the weasel words and spelling errors.
21-09-09 23:34:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you mean the food statement?
21-09-09 23:34:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ok, just for you
21-09-09 23:35:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: No, I don't really mean the food statement.
21-09-09 23:35:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: "what needs to be an essential service is stopping all the terrible food choices and the marketing thereof"
21-09-09 23:35:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: there, it is devoid of weasel words and spelling errors
21-09-09 23:35:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ah, what do you mean
21-09-09 23:36:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I was referring to how you said I "seem" easily triggered, rather than commiting to claim that I am easily triggered, or that what sets me off is "what many would consider" rational conversation, rather than committing to claim that it was in response to rational conversation.
21-09-09 23:36:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Have the cojones to make the claim you want to make.
21-09-09 23:37:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: well, I'm not around you 24/7 so I'm attempting to not make assumptions
21-09-09 23:38:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Also, to explore the headroom that you opened here: What if what we're looking at is not in fact rational conversation.
21-09-09 23:38:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: From what I see, you frequently end up frustrated by what I consider a rational conversation. When this happens, you have resorted to personal attacks and, more than once, chided yourself on getting to that point.
21-09-09 23:38:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: What if "many people" consider it wrongly?
21-09-09 23:39:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Again with the weasel words.
21-09-09 23:39:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: If you're going to go down this road, at least commit, you coward.
21-09-09 23:39:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Don't waffle, saying that I'm frustrated at what "you consider" to be rational conversation.
21-09-09 23:40:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Go all the way and claim, as you want to do, that I am frustrated at _what is_ rational.
21-09-09 23:40:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Once again you're caught in this trap
21-09-09 23:40:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: another point for Gryffindor
21-09-09 23:40:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Yep, digital self harm, baby, look into it, you might be doing it to yourself without noticing.
21-09-09 23:41:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: what do you mean, you coward?
21-09-09 23:41:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Why don't you just commit.
21-09-09 23:41:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I don't know what upsets you, I have no way of knowing.
21-09-09 23:42:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: If you're going to go down this road, saying that I need to "look into it", go all the way.
21-09-09 23:42:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Statistically there's a good chance that you're engaging in a bunch of behaviours that are harmful to you online.
21-09-09 23:42:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Again with the weasel words.
21-09-09 23:42:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Say what you mean. Coward!
21-09-09 23:42:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Okay, so this is my self harm.
21-09-09 23:42:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: What do you mean by "Okay"? Say what you mean, dingus.
21-09-09 23:43:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: This is what I do, I get into discussions with not serious people in ways that harm my mental wellbeing.
21-09-09 23:43:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I'm saying what I mean.
21-09-09 23:43:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Which is why I didn't say, for example, "Okay.", but "Okay, "
21-09-09 23:43:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Statistically there's a good chance that you're engaging in behavior that is harmful to you online, right now.
21-09-09 23:43:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Well, no.
21-09-09 23:43:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Again with the weasel words. Coward!
21-09-09 23:43:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I am not just statistcally engaging in behaviour that is harmful to me online right now.
21-09-09 23:44:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Coward!
21-09-09 23:44:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I am demonstrably and presently engaging in behaviour that is harmful to me online, right now.
21-09-09 23:44:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Again with the weasel words.
21-09-09 23:44:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: At least have the cojones to mean what you say.
21-09-09 23:44:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Like playing at 1:43 AM and having to get up at 3 for a 12 hr shift, and not having slept after the last 12 hr shift? *raises hand*
21-09-09 23:44:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Literally how is anything I said weasel words.
21-09-09 23:44:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Words mean things.
21-09-09 23:45:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Then why did you ask a question without using a question mark?
21-09-09 23:45:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: You can't just repeat what I say back at me and expect it to mean anything.
21-09-09 23:45:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: That's cowardly. Maybe state the first part again with proper spelling.
21-09-09 23:45:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Because I try really hard not to be a shitty hypocrite.
21-09-09 23:45:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Needs more work.
21-09-09 23:45:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I don't always succeed at that, but I try.
21-09-09 23:45:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: You got that right!
21-09-09 23:45:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Coward.
21-09-09 23:46:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Ok, I'm done being Crisisy
21-09-09 23:46:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: not fun at all
21-09-09 23:46:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Then why did you do it for so long?
21-09-09 23:47:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Also, where did you get the "Coward " from?
21-09-09 23:47:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: What about that is "Crisisy"?
21-09-09 23:47:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: *grabs popcorn*
21-09-09 23:48:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I don't _never_ use exclamation points, but it's rare for me.
21-09-09 23:48:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: And I certainly didn't use any recently, on this channel.
21-09-09 23:48:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: And I certainly didn't use any recently, on this channel.
21-09-09 23:48:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: popcorn sounds nice
21-09-09 23:49:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Is 'I don't never' proper english?
21-09-09 23:49:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: (Sorry for the double post, misclick on my part.)
21-09-09 23:49:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I hope you feel better, Crisis
21-09-09 23:49:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: we mean you no harm
21-09-09 23:49:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Sometimes I miss Quix, though
21-09-09 23:49:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Good lad IMHO
21-09-09 23:50:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I'm sorry, isn't Quix the actual, literal fascist of i3 lore?
21-09-09 23:50:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: And you make me miss him.
21-09-09 23:50:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Okay, so that's a pretty interesting statement.
21-09-09 23:50:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Y'all got fascists? Time to check out Iberi
21-09-09 23:50:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Y'all got fascists? Time to check out Iberia*
21-09-09 23:51:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: You don't mean me any harm, but you want there to be more fascists around (who do in fact mean me harm)?
21-09-09 23:51:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: How, exactly, is that different from you just meaning me harm?
21-09-09 23:51:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: if wanting to do you harm is a requirement to being a fascist, then Quix isn't a fascist
21-09-09 23:52:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: actually on second thought I don't think I'd consider Quix anywhere close to a fascist
21-09-09 23:52:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Okay, so fair cop, I might not have been paying attention, but isn't the thing about Quix that he's a self-identified fascist?
21-09-09 23:52:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: what? no.
21-09-09 23:54:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Okay, I guess.
21-09-09 23:55:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, I would feel better about that if you presented something that I might have misinterpreted to that effect, or something like that, but maybe it's just something I invented out of nothing.
21-09-09 23:55:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Seems odd if so, but hey, stranger things have happened.
21-09-09 23:58:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Test
21-09-09 23:59:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Test received.
21-09-09 23:59:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Hi Bruh.
21-09-09 23:59:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Hey bruh.
21-09-10 00:01:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: No offense, but I'm not really interested in convincing you that Quix isn't a fascist. But I'd fill out a "Would you consider Quix a fascist?" poll with a "No."
21-09-10 00:02:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: That's a weird thing to say.
21-09-10 00:02:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Why not just say, "No, you're wrong, Quix isn't a fascist."?
21-09-10 00:02:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Why care about convincing me, or inventing a poll?
21-09-10 00:03:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Why not just say, for example, "No, Quix isn't a fascist."?
21-09-10 00:04:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Or, I suppose, "I don't know where you got the idea that Quix is a self-identified fascist. Quix isn't a fascist."
21-09-10 00:04:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: If you wanted to be comprehensive.
21-09-10 00:07:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Or, if you wanted to couch things in softer langauge, "No offense, but I don't know where you get the idea that Quix is a self-identified fascist. Quix isn't a fascist, self-identified or otherwise."
21-09-10 00:08:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: These are all great, comprehensive and compact choices that don't involve inventing some strange opinion poll that doesn't even ask if Quix _is_ a fascist, but just if you 'consider' Quix a fascist.
21-09-10 00:08:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: how about "isn't the thing about Quix that he's a self-identified fascist?" "what? No." ?
21-09-10 00:08:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Who's Quix?
21-09-10 00:08:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: would that work?
21-09-10 00:08:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Sound like a code language
21-09-10 00:10:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, yeah, that'd work, even if it's potentially ambigous.
21-09-10 00:11:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: It doesn't seem like it's really responding to all of the question, but whatever, I guess.
21-09-10 00:11:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Also, not sure why you're not just saying "No, Quix isn't a fascist.", but whatever.
21-09-10 00:12:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Because I thought it was implied with the "No." part.
21-09-10 00:12:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I'd never troll on xgame. Promise.
21-09-10 00:12:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: misschan
21-09-10 00:13:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, not really; that could have been in repsonse to a couple of things.
21-09-10 00:13:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: It could, on its own, mean "No, Quix isn't a fascist.", or it could mean "No, that's not 'the thing' about Quix.".
21-09-10 00:13:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: And those are two very different statements.
21-09-10 00:13:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Do you think Quix is a fascist?
21-09-10 00:14:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Yeah, I thought, and kind of still think, that the thing about Quix is that he's a self-identified fascist.
21-09-10 00:14:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Why not just say "Yes, Quix is a fascist"?
21-09-10 00:15:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Because that's not what you asked?
21-09-10 00:15:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Is Quix a fascist?
21-09-10 00:17:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I think so? I seem to recall something about how that's why we're all clowning on him?
21-09-10 00:17:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: But I might be misremembering.
21-09-10 00:17:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: That wasn't what I asked. Is Quix a fascist?
21-09-10 00:18:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I think so?
21-09-10 00:18:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: That wasn't what I asked. Is Quix a fascist?
21-09-10 00:19:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Why exactly is "I think so?" not a valid answer?
21-09-10 00:19:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: well,  for one, it's a question
21-09-10 00:19:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I thought Quix was the guy who went off to the militia compound, again, am I misremembering?
21-09-10 00:19:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Yes.
21-09-10 00:20:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Come on, man, please be clear.
21-09-10 00:20:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: "am I misremembering?" "Yes."
21-09-10 00:20:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Thank you.
21-09-10 00:20:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: So who went off to the militia compound?
21-09-10 00:21:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: A lot of people, I would assume.
21-09-10 00:21:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, obviously, but from the MUD community.
21-09-10 00:21:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I don't know who went off to the militia compound from the MUD community.
21-09-10 00:22:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Huh, could have sworn it was someone, and I thought that was Quix, and the subsequent clowning and so on and so forth.
21-09-10 00:25:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: But just for fun, just to be clear.
21-09-10 00:27:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Why can't you just say, "No, Quix isn't a fascist."?
21-09-10 00:27:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Which would clear this whole issue right up.
21-09-10 00:28:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Why exactly is "I don't consider him a fascist." not a valid answer?
21-09-10 00:30:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Just for fun: Jeg tror ikke han er en fascist, men jeg kjenner ham ikke godt nok. Jeg har ikke nok informasjon til a komme med en definitiv "Nei, han er ikke en fascistisk" uttalelse.
21-09-10 00:32:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, "I don't consider him a fascist." would be a fine answer, if that was the the answer you gave, but it wasn't. You said that "If asked, I'd say that I don't consider him a fascist.", which is weirdly removed from the question at hand.
21-09-10 00:32:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: And don't trust machine translation, it doesn't work well.
21-09-10 00:33:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: It serves its purpose well enough.
21-09-10 00:33:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Well, I mean, no, it doesn't; I can tell what you put into the translation window, but it just reads like English, but with Norwegian words.
21-09-10 00:33:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Yes, it definitely needs to improve.
21-09-10 00:34:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: But also, say that, then.
21-09-10 00:34:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Say "To my knowledge, Quix isn't a fascist."
21-09-10 00:35:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Would that answer the "Why can't you just say, "No, Quix isn't a fascist."?" question?
21-09-10 00:36:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Yeah.
21-09-10 00:36:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Then consider that said.
21-09-10 00:36:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Well, no.
21-09-10 00:36:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Say it.
21-09-10 00:37:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: If it's something you believe, then say it.
21-09-10 00:37:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I don't consider Quix a fascist.
21-09-10 00:37:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Okay, that's, fine, I guess.
21-09-10 00:37:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: You've been discussing if Quix is a fascist for the last hour
21-09-10 00:37:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Is he now, or is he not?
21-09-10 00:38:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I don't know, and Sini does not consider him a fascist, so really, at this point, who the fuck knows.
21-09-10 00:38:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: What if you're the fascist, Crisis?
21-09-10 00:38:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, I'm not.
21-09-10 00:39:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: That's a pretty fascist thing to say
21-09-10 00:39:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: It really isn't.
21-09-10 00:39:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I dunno about that, man. I'm german. I'd know what is fascist.
21-09-10 00:40:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Fascist will often hem and haw and try to equivocate, to be sure, but the typical answer to the question "Are you a fascist?" from a fascist is "So what if I am, fascists have a lot of great ideas!" or equivalent nonsense.
21-09-10 00:41:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: That's pretty fascist, man
21-09-10 00:41:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, it isn't, but just for fun, what do you think fascism is?
21-09-10 00:42:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Let me post a link to explain
21-09-10 00:42:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T5BY1j2MkE
21-09-10 00:42:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Sure, that trakcs.
21-09-10 00:42:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Sorry, *tracks
21-09-10 00:44:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Bruhlicious shrugs.
21-09-10 00:45:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: power off 1
21-09-10 00:51:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: lmao
21-09-10 00:51:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: lmao
21-09-10 01:41:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Admin (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: test
21-09-10 01:41:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: y'all have fallen directly into quix's trap with all this talking about quix
21-09-10 01:42:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: test
21-09-10 01:42:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: ok I'm back online
21-09-10 01:53:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: I guess I'm back in business for now.  Lost all my players and logs though
21-09-10 01:53:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: world is still intact
21-09-10 01:58:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: how long was your mud up before the disaster ?
21-09-10 01:59:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: ...about 180 days of virtual uptime without a cold boot
21-09-10 01:59:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: on the upside now I'm running a regular backup cron job
21-09-10 01:59:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: so this wasn't the death of a 30 year old world with thousands of player profiles?
21-09-10 02:00:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: no but it's the principle of the thing so it still hurts
21-09-10 02:01:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: yes of course
21-09-10 02:02:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: and a stinging lesson learned the hard way of why backups are important.  Murphy's law takes no prisoners
21-09-10 02:03:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: if you haven't tested recovery then you have not made any backups
21-09-10 02:03:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: I have backups, but they're all in my house, so it's really not much protection
21-09-10 02:03:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: well my mud was hosted on a vm in the cloud
21-09-10 02:04:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: the other lesson is not to throw a ragenuking hissy fit when something goes wrong
21-09-10 02:04:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: emotional control is important as a sysadmin, brains aren't enough
21-09-10 02:04:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: when else are you going to throw a ragenuking hissy fit? when everything goes well?
21-09-10 02:05:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: doesn't let my foot off the hook from me shooting it
21-09-10 02:05:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: I've been suffering a LOT from depression lately and I guess I overestimated my resolve
21-09-10 02:06:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: Zaphod: my problem is that I wasn't even DOING backups
21-09-10 02:07:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: holy shit
21-09-10 02:07:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: yeah go ahead and laugh crat I deserve it
21-09-10 02:07:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: no not you
21-09-10 02:08:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i just read a tall of text of crisis arguing about every possible scrap of unimportant trivia she could find issue with
21-09-10 02:08:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and not getting the joke when sini mirrored it back to her
21-09-10 02:08:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: we have got to get crisis and quix together
21-09-10 02:09:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: oh wow that'll go over well
21-09-10 02:09:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ok now everyone hush im going to watch the matrix 4 trailer
21-09-10 02:09:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: quix has already told crisis to fuck off for making fun of his little cron message
21-09-10 02:09:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so...
21-09-10 02:10:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: also misgendered her
21-09-10 02:10:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: good god don't get me started
21-09-10 02:12:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ok now see
21-09-10 02:12:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the trailer looks interesting
21-09-10 02:12:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but matrix sequels have deceived me before
21-09-10 02:12:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yes, but crat
21-09-10 02:12:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: THERE'S A DUCK
21-09-10 02:13:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i missed the duck
21-09-10 02:13:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: are you wathcing the right trailor?
21-09-10 02:13:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: or maybe the duck was too subtle for you to notice
21-09-10 02:13:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: maybe yer just not a duck noticer
21-09-10 02:13:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh shit
21-09-10 02:14:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: is matrix 4 a metaphor for being a duck
21-09-10 02:14:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: when was a sequel ever good ?
21-09-10 02:14:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: godfather 2
21-09-10 02:14:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: aliens
21-09-10 02:14:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: die hard 2
21-09-10 02:14:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: empire strikes back
21-09-10 02:14:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: out of thousands of sequels, that's a meager score
21-09-10 02:15:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hey thats just off the top of our heads
21-09-10 02:15:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you can extrapolate to many more than that
21-09-10 02:15:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: lets see what google says
21-09-10 02:15:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh shit yeah road warrior
21-09-10 02:16:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: wat
21-09-10 02:16:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: evil dead 2 is a masterpiece
21-09-10 02:16:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: thunder dome was crap
21-09-10 02:16:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: no not that
21-09-10 02:16:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the road warrior. the one where he protects a convoy, from the 80s
21-09-10 02:16:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that was a sequel to a movie called mad max
21-09-10 02:17:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: wrath of khan
21-09-10 02:17:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: not just a good sequel, better than the first
21-09-10 02:18:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: logan was a better movie than any of the preceding xman movies
21-09-10 02:18:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: a bunch of those bourne sequels were pretty good
21-09-10 02:19:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i mean, dex i get your point, you dont have a lot of faith in sequels
21-09-10 02:19:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i get you
21-09-10 02:19:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but with money and talent and will it seems possible to make a good sequel
21-09-10 02:19:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and you probably only need two of those
21-09-10 02:20:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: if you're just going to disprove my preconceived notions with "facts" and "logic", I'm not going to listen to you
21-09-10 02:20:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: crisis i hope you're reading the logs
21-09-10 02:20:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: one can disagree without being disagreeable
21-09-10 02:21:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: if you're a total wuss, sure
21-09-10 02:21:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: if youre a COWARD
21-09-10 02:22:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh fuck dawn of the dead
21-09-10 02:33:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: susan anway :(
21-09-10 13:22:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: comcast sucks so i downgraded my subscription to internet only, and somehow i got a free peacock+ premium subscription for diong so. go figure
21-09-10 13:22:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: anyway peacock+ appears to be mostly utter shit, like 98% of it is redbox movies you dont understand why anyone would pay money for
21-09-10 13:23:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but some stuff is interesting. i am in the middle of a fascinating documentary miniseries on john wayne gacy
21-09-10 13:23:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: turns out the dude was sick as fuck
21-09-10 13:25:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: wow, today I learned
21-09-10 13:27:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: it's largely because of him that the general consensus became that all clowns should be tortured to death in a public square
21-09-10 13:27:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: harsh, maybe, but justified
21-09-10 13:27:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: the clown community has gone too far
21-09-10 13:30:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: clowns have imposed harsh capitalism on the world with their secret control of banking and finance, in order to trigger socialist revolutions and establish global communism
21-09-10 13:36:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the key takeaway of john wayne gacy is that there were hundreds of opportunities to catch him if the local police had even slightly done their jobs
21-09-10 13:39:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: survivorship bias
21-09-10 13:39:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: the freaks that get caught the first time don't get a documentary
21-09-10 13:45:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: he was a jolly, ourgoing, overweight white midwestern white man with strong ties to local politics and he owned his own business
21-09-10 13:45:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: he kept getting arrested for fucked up sex crimes but somehow cops kept not noticing the link between him and missing boys
21-09-10 13:56:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: makes you wonder how many children trump has raped and murdered
21-09-10 14:03:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: good morning
21-09-10 14:03:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hi
21-09-10 14:14:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: do the technicians at an execution disinfect the injection site
21-09-10 14:17:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: back up
21-09-10 14:17:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: and my backup script is working now, forgot that cron's env doesn't include ~/bin in its path :P
21-09-10 15:18:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hmm
21-09-10 16:20:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: eh! shentino's back
21-09-10 16:21:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: heard he has typed format c: in his mud server
21-09-10 16:21:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: someone from i3 told him to do that
21-09-10 16:42:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Tsath (Nuke II in I3)@Iberia: Believe he runs it in a docker container.
21-09-10 16:50:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: tsath a lie
21-09-10 17:14:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hot damn boiz
21-09-10 18:35:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hi
21-09-10 18:35:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I dunno if I'd consider Die hard 2 a good sequel
21-09-10 18:35:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but maybe it's a metaphor for something and I missed it
21-09-10 18:36:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: As I recall, it's not a sequel at all; it's just a script that someone had that someone shoehorned Die Hardman into to make it more marketable.
21-09-10 18:37:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I think I recall that, too
21-09-10 18:37:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: That's certainly true for several of the Die Hard movies, but I can't remember off the top of my head if it's true of Die Hard II: Die Harder in particular.
21-09-10 18:38:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I have a gut feeling that was Die Hard 3 though
21-09-10 18:38:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's why it's so different than the other 2. Let me look it up.
21-09-10 18:39:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: masterworks of american action cinema
21-09-10 18:39:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: 1 and 2 anyway
21-09-10 18:39:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Yeah I dunno about 2
21-09-10 18:43:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I remember seeing a video essay back in the day on the Die Hard movies and the stories of their scripts, but I can't remember the context of that or the series now. /shrug
21-09-10 18:44:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: this is what wikipedia says about Die Hard 3: "Like most of the films in the series, the premise of this film was repurposed from a stand-alone project."
21-09-10 18:44:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: this probably means Die Hard 2 also started that way
21-09-10 18:44:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: But also, the Die Hard movies, especially I and II, aren't really meant to be good; or rather, they don't need to be. They're christmas movies. They are familiar stories that you can rewatch around the holidays.
21-09-10 18:45:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: The screenplay was adapted from Walter Wager's 1987 novel 58 Minutes. The novel has the same plot but differs slightly: a police officer must stop terrorists who take an airport hostage while his wife's plane circles overhead, and has 58 minutes to do so before the plane crashes.
21-09-10 18:45:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: (this is about Die hard 2)
21-09-10 18:45:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: can't remember if die harder was a xmas movie or not
21-09-10 18:45:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so yeah, original stories not written bit Diehardman in mind; which means Diehardman is so generic that he can be popped into almost anything
21-09-10 18:46:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Die Hard 2 happens on Christmas Eve
21-09-10 18:47:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: what I most remember from Die Hard 2 is very odd. There's a moment where Bruce Willis is asking an airline employee for the use of a fax. And out of nowhere, she just overtly flirts with him. "Is there.... anything ELSE I can help you with?" Bruce: "Just the fax, ma'am. Just the fax" smiling back.
21-09-10 18:47:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it was so odd and out of place
21-09-10 18:48:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I guess it was to establish that Diehardman gets the girls?
21-09-10 18:48:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh and he holds up his wedding ring as he says that btw
21-09-10 18:48:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: just in case it wasn't clear why he was saying no
21-09-10 19:07:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: Yeah viriato I'm back, got kinda sloppy with self discipline regarding mud maintenance and then murphy's law bit me in the ass
21-09-10 19:07:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: ...very funny viriato lol, but format C: only works on windows.  I'm using a linux vm.
21-09-10 19:07:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: Tsath: actually I run it in a bottom tier VM on Google Cloud
21-09-10 19:09:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: yupi ca ye mother frogger!
21-09-10 19:12:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: and one of the almost at the end scenes when bruce puts his arms up to surrender but has 2 guns in a holster at his back
21-09-10 19:13:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: in Vikings and last kingdom they do the trick too but with swords
21-09-10 19:13:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: so again diehardman is late
21-09-10 19:14:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: and prolly the same scene in star wars with lasers or light sabrez
21-09-10 19:15:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: only Shakespeare was original
21-09-10 19:23:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: ig Viriato: I lost all my logs and my player accounts becuase I did a ragenuke after a crash trashed my mud's snapshot file and wrecked my virtual uptime
21-09-10 19:26:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: but no, nobody told me to do format C:, if that's what you meant by the nuke that was just me losing my nerve after getting raped by murphy's law
21-09-10 19:35:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: who the fuck uses google cloud
21-09-10 19:37:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Shentino, clearly.
21-09-10 19:37:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Were you not paying attention to  the thing tht was _just_ said?
21-09-10 19:37:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh hey it's sassypants mcgee again
21-09-10 19:41:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: are you here to make tangential arguments about stupid shit again
21-09-10 19:42:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Not really, but I think it's pretty wyld for you to call me sassy when you're actively in the process of giving someone shit for what cloud hosting service they are using for their MUD.
21-09-10 19:42:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: in fairness i'd give anyone shit for what cloud hosting service they use for anything, it's what i do
21-09-10 19:43:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Is that something that requires fairness? Isn't that just an admission of a bad thing you do?
21-09-10 19:43:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: bad is pretty subjective here
21-09-10 19:44:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Crisis[email protected]: It really isn't. You're just inventing a scenario for how you think someone uses a service, and then imagining how they are currently using their service, and then giving unsolicited advice based on complete fantasy.
21-09-10 19:45:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Nobody needs that. It doesn't help anyone. It's bad.
21-09-10 19:45:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: It's the "pineapple on pizza" of tech support.
21-09-10 19:45:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: it wasn't google cloud's fault anyway that my mud crashed, that's on me for being negligent with backups
21-09-10 19:45:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: seems like you're giving unsolicited opinions here, pot meet kettle?
21-09-10 19:46:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: bro i am so sympathetic to backup failage
21-09-10 19:46:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: and don't get me started on pineapple on pizza.  As far as I'm concerned, if it tastes good and is healthy, who cares if it breaks tradition or not?  Really, it's like the bean debate for chili
21-09-10 19:46:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's the worst
21-09-10 19:46:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ploosk (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: what about backup foliage
21-09-10 19:46:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: salius: your sarcasm is deserved
21-09-10 19:46:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: fight fight fight fight
21-09-10 19:46:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: backup foliage is pretty cool
21-09-10 19:46:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ploosk (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: always good to have a spare fern
21-09-10 19:47:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: ...honestly I need to start with plant based ecology
21-09-10 19:48:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, telling you to cut out the unhelpful "advice", which is to say, calling you on your shit, isn't _exactly_ equivalent to giving out said unhelpful "advice".
21-09-10 19:49:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: I do notice that most people, probably rightly, don't have any sympathy for those who suffer because they shot themselves in the foot
21-09-10 19:49:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Backup failures are terrible, no doubt about it.
21-09-10 19:49:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: and if the shooter is a nutjob with emotional issues they tend to get blown off as rightful prey to dawrwin's law
21-09-10 19:49:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you really are a pedantic crisis aren't you
21-09-10 19:51:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I feel like that's a weird phrasing, but I guess?
21-09-10 19:51:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: I just wish people on th einternet, or in general, weren't such assholes when dealing with aspies
21-09-10 19:52:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the people on the internet are the aspies.
21-09-10 19:52:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: too many people think that karma is infallible
21-09-10 19:52:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: qed
21-09-10 19:52:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: what's an aspie
21-09-10 19:52:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: sperglords.
21-09-10 19:52:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Someone with ASD.
21-09-10 19:52:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: I am an aspie myself
21-09-10 19:52:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Or I guess what Joshua said, if that's the way you want to go with it.
21-09-10 19:53:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: who's picking on aspies
21-09-10 19:53:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Crisis.
21-09-10 19:53:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I'm not sure that tracks, Joshua.
21-09-10 19:53:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oic
21-09-10 19:54:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ugh i have to migrate all my hosting shit from centos to ubuntu at some point
21-09-10 19:54:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: GOD you used CENTOS instead of UBUNTU what sort of ASPIE are you?
21-09-10 19:54:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the worst kind
21-09-10 19:54:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: indeed
21-09-10 19:54:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: apparently
21-09-10 19:54:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i have a fedora box and it is only pain
21-09-10 19:54:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: I use gentoo on my desktop
21-09-10 19:54:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i wish i was running teh ubuntu
21-09-10 19:55:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: shentino is just making fun now.
21-09-10 19:55:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i never really had any preference it was just familiarity
21-09-10 19:55:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I like pineapple on pizza
21-09-10 19:55:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ya wanna sass me up for it
21-09-10 19:55:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: pineapple on pizza is fantastic
21-09-10 19:55:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: my wife vetoes it though
21-09-10 19:55:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: pineapple on pizza is mediocre and lame
21-09-10 19:55:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: grounds for divorce
21-09-10 19:55:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: QUIT OPPRESSING ME JOSHUA
21-09-10 19:55:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Joshua I'm divorcing you
21-09-10 19:55:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: don't leave me
21-09-10 19:55:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: too late
21-09-10 19:55:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: crisis come to my defense, i'm being assaulted
21-09-10 19:55:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: mi amor
21-09-10 19:56:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I'm moving to the Dole plantation
21-09-10 19:56:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I think I was unclear earlier.
21-09-10 19:56:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: taste is inherently subjective
21-09-10 19:56:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: https://kotaku.com/epic-wins-big-fortnite-lawsuit-against-apple-1847653612
21-09-10 19:56:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: this makes me happy
21-09-10 19:56:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: not when it comes to gentoo
21-09-10 19:56:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: I'll put pineaple on my pizza and beans in my chili and everyone else can kiss my ass
21-09-10 19:56:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: not because i'm a particular fan of epic
21-09-10 19:56:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but because i despise apple
21-09-10 19:57:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: them losing brings me happiness
21-09-10 19:57:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: When I said the "pinapple on pizza of tech support" I meant to imply that giving unsolicited tech advice like you were doing, especially in the manner you were doing, is morally equivalent to giving people shit for liking pineapple on pizza.
21-09-10 19:57:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: 'wins'?
21-09-10 19:57:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ooh, is it the "Fortnite can't sign people up on their website, they have to go through the Apple Store" or something thing?
21-09-10 19:57:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: "Today a U.S. District Court judge ruled in Epic Games?C?"?B?
21-09-10 19:57:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: god i hate computers
21-09-10 19:57:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: what was the thing i had to fix to make that work right
21-09-10 19:58:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: your brain
21-09-10 19:58:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: post a link instead
21-09-10 19:58:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i did
21-09-10 19:58:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: clicking on links breaks the friendly bonds we could form by discussing it here
21-09-10 19:58:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: Salius stop sending control chars on imud_gossip lol
21-09-10 19:58:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: "Today a U.S. District Court judge ruled in Epic Games' favor in its lawsuit against Apple. As a result, Apple can no longer dictate that purchases made in apps on its own devices go through the App Store."
21-09-10 19:58:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i didn't mean to
21-09-10 19:58:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: my IntermudD just caught you red handed lmao
21-09-10 19:58:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: how is our little cult going to operate if we keep clicking on links
21-09-10 19:58:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I put beans in my chili as well, and sometimes pineapple in my chili.
21-09-10 19:58:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: tell me how to think, don't let others do so
21-09-10 19:59:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: ...damn that sounds good Crisis!
21-09-10 19:59:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that actually does sound good
21-09-10 19:59:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: Yeah salius you sent it at 12:57:44 PDT
21-09-10 19:59:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I don't generally put beans on my pizza, but I don't mind if anyone else does, and if I was served bean pizza, I'd probably try it, if it looked appetising.
21-09-10 19:59:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: shentino i know i sent it, i said i didn't mean to
21-09-10 19:59:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the other day I put pineapples in my noodles, stir fried it all - I thought the pineapples would wither but no! toasty and juicy - yum!
21-09-10 19:59:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: they actually do make a "mexcican pizza" with beans on it
21-09-10 20:00:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that's kinda racist
21-09-10 20:00:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: "What does this mean? In 2022, Apple can no longer require that online purchases made in games or apps on Apple devices go through its own App Store. It must allow developers to redirect users to their own marketplaces for online purchases."
21-09-10 20:00:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I was gonna say, that does sound, you know, a bit "yikes".
21-09-10 20:00:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: all i know is that's going to appeals cause apple gonna cry about it
21-09-10 20:00:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: total yikes
21-09-10 20:00:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Maybe there's more context to it.
21-09-10 20:00:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: mexican pizza is literally the name of a food, mrs woke culture
21-09-10 20:00:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that's absolutely fantastic, Sali
21-09-10 20:00:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: down with the draconian Apple practices
21-09-10 20:01:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: apple being sad makes me happy
21-09-10 20:01:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Happius
21-09-10 20:01:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Yeah, I get that the name of the food is "Mexican Pizza", that's the problem.
21-09-10 20:01:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you people are monsters
21-09-10 20:01:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: "It's mexican pizza, it's pizza with beans on it!" sounds like a weird racist joke.
21-09-10 20:01:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: putting beans on a pizza and saying "this is mexican pizza" is the yikes part
21-09-10 20:02:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Maybe it isn't, maybe there's some context I'm missing here, but to me, that seems weird and bad.
21-09-10 20:02:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: because it's associating beans with mexico, which is a yikes thing to do
21-09-10 20:02:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: clearly I was joking about die hard 2.... the first die hard is the only real die hard and the rest are dead to me
21-09-10 20:02:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: like putting rice on pizza and calling it chinese pizza
21-09-10 20:02:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh is chinese food offensive too now
21-09-10 20:02:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: sorry for missing the drama I was afk
21-09-10 20:02:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: only the font they used
21-09-10 20:02:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: putting thai peppers on fried rice and calling it thai
21-09-10 20:02:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, the history of chinese food is pretty racist.
21-09-10 20:02:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: and I wasn't the one who invented the name "mexican pizza", tbh
21-09-10 20:02:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: But in a weird way.
21-09-10 20:02:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: down with the world
21-09-10 20:02:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: it was probably a pizza chain
21-09-10 20:02:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i like 'taco pizza'
21-09-10 20:02:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: phew, for a momnet we thought you were a chef, Shentino
21-09-10 20:02:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and that you had invented it
21-09-10 20:03:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: I am, but I didn't invent mexcian pizza
21-09-10 20:03:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: watcha gonna cook for us
21-09-10 20:03:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: yes I'm a chef, no "mexican pizza" wasn't my idea
21-09-10 20:03:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: mexican pizza is literally tortillas with taco toppings
21-09-10 20:03:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: cook something for us
21-09-10 20:03:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: including but not limited to beans
21-09-10 20:03:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: in italy they have 'pizza americano' which is hot dogs and french fries.
21-09-10 20:03:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you can actually get mexican pizza without beans
21-09-10 20:03:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: real pizza americano is pepperoni pizza.
21-09-10 20:03:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so maybe quit making an international incident about everything ever your wokeness
21-09-10 20:03:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: isn't that a tostada?
21-09-10 20:03:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: *makes a dough from scratch*
21-09-10 20:04:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Like, maybe "mexican pizza" is a pizza developed by mexican people, or at least some expert in mexican food, and it makes sense for it to have beans on it.
21-09-10 20:04:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: if I'm agreeing that it's a little yikes am I also your wokeness?
21-09-10 20:04:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: But it sounds like it's just a normal pizza someone dumped a bunch of beans on and said "Lol mexican pizza".
21-09-10 20:04:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yes actually but this isn't a hill i'm going to die on, i just think society right now needs to focus on things that are actually offensive instead of turning everything into something offensive
21-09-10 20:05:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: beans and cheese actually
21-09-10 20:05:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: maybe you should do a little research before you cancel culture a fucking culinary creation
21-09-10 20:05:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: can we ban shentino for all this hate speech?
21-09-10 20:05:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: real mexican pizza has chicharon on it
21-09-10 20:05:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: pork belly pizza
21-09-10 20:05:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh but wait, researching before you become offended is not required nowadays
21-09-10 20:05:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: See, now that sounds like a mexican pizza.
21-09-10 20:05:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: honestly I think the term "mexican pizza" was coined by someone who liked the idea and was ignorant about any potentially racist implications
21-09-10 20:05:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you skip the research part and just complain until lots of people are offended with you
21-09-10 20:06:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: and I'm honestly tired myself of "cancel culture" being done in the name of political correctness
21-09-10 20:06:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Like, you can make a mexican pizza, you can even make wierd jokes around it.
21-09-10 20:06:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: who the frick cares what they call it, if it's delicious it's worth eating
21-09-10 20:06:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Like, swap out the cheddar and mozeralla for chihuahua cheese.
21-09-10 20:06:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Because gosh golly ain't that a funny name for a cheese.
21-09-10 20:06:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: ...is that cheese made from chihuahua milk?
21-09-10 20:06:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: It's just cheese from the state of Chihuahua, which is also where the dog comes from.
21-09-10 20:07:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i like where this tangent is going, now it's time for me to leave again so i can read all the scrollback tomorrow
21-09-10 20:07:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: farewell friends
21-09-10 20:07:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: good day, happy weekend, sir.
21-09-10 20:07:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: there are lots of mexican cheeses which work perfectly fine for pizza.
21-09-10 20:07:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: So yeah, chicharon and queson Chihuahua.
21-09-10 20:07:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: we made 'gluten free' pizza crust once.  the crust was 'pan queso'.
21-09-10 20:08:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: fun fact: chihuahua cheese was made by mennonites
21-09-10 20:08:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: There's a mexican pizza that is kind of a joke about it being mexican, and also not racist.
21-09-10 20:08:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: was it you who shared the cheese abbey with general pattons daughter?
21-09-10 20:08:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Which seems like what you want, right?
21-09-10 20:08:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: oh wow
21-09-10 20:08:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: and to think I could have kept all my chatlogs if I'd just had the self control not to ragenuke my vm ^^
21-09-10 20:08:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: That is a fun fact.
21-09-10 20:09:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: yeah, having a screw loose isnt' fun
21-09-10 20:09:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: And while I haven't every had Chihuahua cheese, from what I read it seems like a great cheese for pizzas.
21-09-10 20:09:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Complete win.
21-09-10 20:10:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: asadero works too
21-09-10 20:10:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: there are lots.
21-09-10 20:10:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Yeah, I mean, they make a lot of cheese in Mexico, I assume.
21-09-10 20:10:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i think we're doing quesadillas for dinner tonight
21-09-10 20:10:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: leave the tajin on the side
21-09-10 20:10:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i mean i'd be lying if i'd said i'd tried all the cheeses
21-09-10 20:10:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: But queso Chihuahua has the benefit of the funny name, which is a plus for a stunt pizza.
21-09-10 20:11:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i like taco pizza.  I'm not sure what 'mexican' pizza would even be.
21-09-10 20:11:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, that's probably it, isn't.
21-09-10 20:12:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: there is also 'tex mex'
21-09-10 20:12:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Like, a pizza with peppers, maize and taco spice ground beef.
21-09-10 20:12:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: which is like gringoized mexican food
21-09-10 20:12:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: what sauce do you use though?
21-09-10 20:12:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: red salsa is pretty common
21-09-10 20:12:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i've never seen the 'sour cream chicken enchilada' done as a pizza.
21-09-10 20:12:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: sofrito
21-09-10 20:13:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Probably something somewhere in between a standard pizza tomato sauce and something closer to a red salsa?
21-09-10 20:13:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I don't know, I'm not an expert in mexican cuisine.
21-09-10 20:13:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: what is a standard pizza tomato sauce?
21-09-10 20:13:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Crushed tomatoes, some tomato paste, basil, some salt and pepper, maybe a whisper of garlic.
21-09-10 20:14:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that is one of many standards
21-09-10 20:14:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oregano?  majoram?
21-09-10 20:14:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: just tomatos
21-09-10 20:14:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i've seen so many.
21-09-10 20:14:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: san marzano tomatoes
21-09-10 20:14:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Probably whatever spice is localy available.
21-09-10 20:14:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you know what ruins everything when they try to 'mexican'-ify a food?
21-09-10 20:14:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: adding chorizo.
21-09-10 20:14:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I think most pizza sauces are in practice made with mass market pulped tomatoes.
21-09-10 20:15:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: josh fs->
21-09-10 20:15:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Obviously some high-quality home- or restaurant-made pizzas will differ.
21-09-10 20:15:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: no chorizo hate-speech allowed
21-09-10 20:15:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it turns whatever it touchs into a greasy mess
21-09-10 20:15:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: no zaphod i will not be silenced
21-09-10 20:16:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i don't care how unpopular my opinion is
21-09-10 20:16:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: don't judge me
21-09-10 20:16:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you can call me a nazi but i will not recant my statements on chorizo
21-09-10 20:16:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you can cancel me but you can't cancel us all!
21-09-10 20:16:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Personally I mostly don't mind if my pizza gets a little greasy, or my food in general, but I can see how adding a fatty sausage could be unappealing.
21-09-10 20:17:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: josh just likes to be the only fatty sausage in the room
21-09-10 20:17:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: nice.
21-09-10 20:17:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Zing.
21-09-10 20:17:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you want some hot grease running down your throat from this fatty sausage?
21-09-10 20:18:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it'll stain your clothes
21-09-10 20:19:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I bet it will.
21-09-10 20:19:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: chingue tu madre, pinche cabron
21-09-10 20:21:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I could really go for some chorizo
21-09-10 20:22:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i want some pork in red sauce.
21-09-10 20:22:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Phrasing.
21-09-10 20:22:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: sorry did that invoke visages of dead cops?
21-09-10 20:22:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i'll try to use something less erotic
21-09-10 20:23:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: No, it just sounded like you were trying to invoke fucking someone while they were on their period.
21-09-10 20:23:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: unrelatedly, I need more dog friends I can facetime with
21-09-10 20:23:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: maybe you should start a service
21-09-10 20:23:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Puppers as a Service
21-09-10 20:23:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: for $0.99 a minute, you can facetime with a cute dog.
21-09-10 20:23:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: nice
21-09-10 20:23:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: for $1.99 you can even beat it
21-09-10 20:24:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Or, better yet, a mutual aid network where people with can hook up with people who want to talk to dogs, to make the world better for everyone.
21-09-10 20:24:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Even people who can't afford to pay for access to a dog.
21-09-10 20:24:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i like that
21-09-10 20:24:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i came back to say you had a good idea but i still think you're a mental case
21-09-10 20:24:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: bye
21-09-10 20:24:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: people without money are worthless, right?
21-09-10 20:25:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the owl cafe I went to in tokyo had a shiba inu just hanging around being a shiba inu and I really want to facetime that pupper
21-09-10 20:25:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: And like, if you insist on making it transactional, you could always frame it as people talking to the dogs as being kind of digital dogsitters or whatever.
21-09-10 20:25:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: People who can keep your dog company while you're at work through the screen.
21-09-10 20:26:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: why not both
21-09-10 20:26:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: we can charge people on both ends
21-09-10 20:26:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Or, ideally, neither end.
21-09-10 20:26:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i'm sure people would pay to look at dog buttholes too
21-09-10 20:26:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i assume there are already providers for that service
21-09-10 20:27:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, dogs are pretty liberal with who they show their buttholes to.
21-09-10 20:27:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: They're not shy about it.
21-09-10 20:27:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: https://www.reddit.com/r/corgibutts/
21-09-10 20:27:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: there's a subreddit for everything
21-09-10 20:27:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: reported
21-09-10 20:27:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i wish my new phone would get here
21-09-10 20:27:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so i can hate it already
21-09-10 20:27:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: whatcha gettin
21-09-10 20:27:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: z fold 3
21-09-10 20:28:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i'm too cheap to buy a new one
21-09-10 20:28:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh fuck that
21-09-10 20:28:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: figure i'll give the third generation a shot
21-09-10 20:28:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: gl hf
21-09-10 20:28:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: what if the real dog buttholes were the frens we met along the way?
21-09-10 20:28:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i'll either love it or hate it
21-09-10 20:28:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Oh, yeah, that's a thing, isn't it.
21-09-10 20:28:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Flip phones again.
21-09-10 20:29:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: there's also a z flip 3
21-09-10 20:29:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i'm waiting for my s9+ to die
21-09-10 20:29:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: which looks interesting if you want a flip phone
21-09-10 20:29:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i'm sure it'll drift into oblivion soon
21-09-10 20:29:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: It's just one of those things that plague us every few years.
21-09-10 20:29:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Like 3D TVs or whatever
21-09-10 20:30:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: whoa what did I miss while Iw as afk?
21-09-10 20:30:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Although, in fairness, the second to last generation of flip phones, like, the ones that came out just before smart phones completely oblitterated the market, were pretty cool.
21-09-10 20:30:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: And, like, appropriate tech.
21-09-10 20:31:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: bear in mind though that dogs only get awya with showing their butts because they're dogs
21-09-10 20:31:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: *insert discussion relating to the furry fandom here*
21-09-10 20:31:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: The flip smart phone doesn't really make sense, but that's not something we need to care about, apparently.
21-09-10 20:31:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: furries are people too, bigot.
21-09-10 20:32:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: When the battery in a phone dies over time because of physics, that's planned obsolence and a bad thing; when the design of a phone contains a fucking hinge for some reason, that's "cool" and "futuristic".
21-09-10 20:32:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I hate it here.
21-09-10 20:32:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ploosk (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: lol
21-09-10 20:32:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: move
21-09-10 20:33:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Unfortunately, there are not a lot of apartments available outside of capitalism.
21-09-10 20:33:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: (On account of the right wing death squads that keep burning them down to make capitalism look good by comparison, but we don't need to look into that too closely, _I'M SURE_.)
21-09-10 20:34:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: strangely i agree with that
21-09-10 20:34:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: anyways, my phone has a hinge because i want a bigger screen, which is a valid reason for a phone to have a hinge
21-09-10 20:34:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: idk why that's such a bad thing
21-09-10 20:35:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the wonderful thing is, you're allowed to not get a phone with a hinge
21-09-10 20:35:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but here you are berating me about my choice of phone
21-09-10 20:35:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: after berating me for berating someone about their choice of cloud provider
21-09-10 20:35:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i'm sure you have a reason why those two things aren't the same though
21-09-10 20:35:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Well, no, I'm not berating you on your choice of phone.
21-09-10 20:35:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: If you want a phone with a hinge, get a phone with a hinge.
21-09-10 20:35:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i look forward to hearing it
21-09-10 20:35:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so excited
21-09-10 20:36:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hypocrisy is my fetish
21-09-10 20:36:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: *looks in backscroll*  Dog butts
21-09-10 20:36:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: But both complaining about how hardwired batteries are bad and also getting a phone with a hinge seems pretty damn inconsistent to me.
21-09-10 20:36:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I don't know that you're doing that in particular.
21-09-10 20:36:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I never claimed that you were.
21-09-10 20:36:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: But a hinge is a major physical weakness in a phone.
21-09-10 20:37:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Which if you plan on replacing it pretty quickly is fine, probably.
21-09-10 20:37:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I didn't say that anyone is wrong for getting a phone with a hinge.
21-09-10 20:38:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I'm saying that people who whine about phones not having replacable batteries are wrong for getting phones with hinges.
21-09-10 20:39:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Because, if hypocrisy is your fetish, boy howdy, people complaining about one tradeoff that reduces the lifetime of the phone for physical heft rasons while jacking off over another tradeoff that reduces the lifetime of the phone for physical heft reasons should be a real fuckin' boon to your spank bank.
21-09-10 20:39:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: yeah. Jupiter is not aligned with Saturn there
21-09-10 20:40:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: this is exactly the same argument against foldy phones that quix makes
21-09-10 20:41:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: coincidence?
21-09-10 20:41:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you don't want to know what's in my spank bank
21-09-10 20:41:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: or maybe you do
21-09-10 20:42:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: we already know, sali
21-09-10 20:42:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you spank so much your bank is always empty
21-09-10 20:43:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: dog buttz
21-09-10 20:43:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: my bank is never empty
21-09-10 20:43:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Look, like I said, I don't know your specific needs.
21-09-10 20:43:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: If a folding smart phone works for you, then fill your boots.
21-09-10 20:43:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yet here you are giving unsolicited opinions and advice
21-09-10 20:44:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: dog butts.  pooping out fresh turds.
21-09-10 20:44:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: after berating me for doing so
21-09-10 20:44:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: scat is not in my spank bank
21-09-10 20:44:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: what is a spank bank anyway lol
21-09-10 20:44:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: So what you're saying is that you were wrong for giving unsolicited advice in the first place?
21-09-10 20:44:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: how fresh is the turd? from 1 to 10
21-09-10 20:44:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: idk are you wrong for giving unsolicited advice right now?
21-09-10 20:44:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Not what I asked.
21-09-10 20:44:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: answer me first
21-09-10 20:44:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Why?
21-09-10 20:44:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: who is giving unsolicited advice to who anyway?  I lost track lol
21-09-10 20:45:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: apparently asking who the fuck actually uses google cloud was unsolicited advice
21-09-10 20:45:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: cause you're talking bout dog buttz
21-09-10 20:45:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: Viriato: so fresh it's still in the dog's bowels
21-09-10 20:45:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: it's solid?
21-09-10 20:45:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: yes
21-09-10 20:46:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: anyways this debate tactic basically puts you on the same level as quix, so i'm done debating with you because you have no intention of actually hearing opinions, only giving them
21-09-10 20:46:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: then sounds it has having decent meals. that's good for the health
21-09-10 20:46:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, okay.
21-09-10 20:46:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: unlike you, i can change my opinion based on new information or context, which is called being an adult
21-09-10 20:46:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: What opinions do you feel like I've dismissed out of hand?
21-09-10 20:46:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: in theory yes, just as long as thye get enough meat out of it.  Dogs aren't meant to be on a high fiber diet, really
21-09-10 20:46:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you're just a pedantic argue bot
21-09-10 20:47:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: what I'd like to know is why quix is a cheater at debating.  You both seem to know him better than I do
21-09-10 20:47:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: if you answered liequ
21-09-10 20:47:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: if you answered liequ
21-09-10 20:47:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: if you answered liequ
21-09-10 20:47:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: woah
21-09-10 20:47:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ploosk (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: his brain was replaced by rats
21-09-10 20:47:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: lol, accidental dupe?
21-09-10 20:47:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ploosk (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: it's a tragic tale
21-09-10 20:47:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: if you answered liquid, I would say it was pee
21-09-10 20:47:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I smell toast
21-09-10 20:48:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: I know the difference between a colon and a bladder lol
21-09-10 20:48:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: damn phone without a hinge and not replaceable batteries
21-09-10 20:48:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: sorry
21-09-10 20:48:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: quix isn't a cheater at debating, he does not debate, he just talks and ignores what you say
21-09-10 20:48:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: I'm not mad, notice the lol
21-09-10 20:48:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: see salius that's what I'd call cheating.
21-09-10 20:48:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: cheating is acting with the intention to win
21-09-10 20:48:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: it's the debate version of god-moding
21-09-10 20:48:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: he can't win or lose if he's not actually debating
21-09-10 20:49:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: he can however talk at you and ignore any logical arguments
21-09-10 20:49:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so in his mind either: he never loses, or always wins
21-09-10 20:49:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: that ignorance of logical arguments is what I'm getting at
21-09-10 20:49:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and everyone else is wrong unless they agree with him
21-09-10 20:49:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: people who are right int heir own eyes purely by fiat
21-09-10 20:49:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hell, sometimes he even argues with people WHO agree with him
21-09-10 20:49:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: I disagree with myself.  Fite me!
21-09-10 20:49:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, I don't see why that's a problem.
21-09-10 20:50:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Q E fucking D
21-09-10 20:50:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Like, you can agree with someone in broad strokes but differ in the details.
21-09-10 20:50:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: It's a huge fucking thing.
21-09-10 20:50:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hi
21-09-10 20:50:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: is Sali still around
21-09-10 20:50:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i wish i had broad strokes
21-09-10 20:50:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: welcome to the party!
21-09-10 20:50:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but they're actually pretty short strokes
21-09-10 20:50:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Also, what logical arguments am I ignoring?
21-09-10 20:50:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: we talking about shit
21-09-10 20:50:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i was not gifted with a horsecock like sini
21-09-10 20:51:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Sali, me going yikes at the "mexican pizza" thing is hardly society protesting outside 50 state capitol buildings to eradicate that bean-laden nightmare
21-09-10 20:51:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Quitcher snowflaking about my snowflaking
21-09-10 20:51:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: touche
21-09-10 20:51:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: don't get me started on the trump-surrection
21-09-10 20:51:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: see that was a well formed argument
21-09-10 20:51:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Was it?
21-09-10 20:51:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that being said, beans on pizza may not be so bad
21-09-10 20:52:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but mexican pizza isn't beans on pizza
21-09-10 20:52:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: it is
21-09-10 20:52:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that's what Shentino said it was, though
21-09-10 20:52:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: it's not
21-09-10 20:52:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Hi Viri
21-09-10 20:52:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: he did
21-09-10 20:52:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: mexican pizza is literally tortillas with taco toppings
21-09-10 20:52:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: it's not
21-09-10 20:52:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Mexican pizza is pizza as served in mexico.
21-09-10 20:52:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: nearer the right answer
21-09-10 20:52:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i see you didn't yet research the argument you're making
21-09-10 20:53:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Here's what I'm reacting to: "Shentino  someone put beans on pizza and that's mexican pizza"
21-09-10 20:53:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I'm not an expert, but I'm guessing involves pepper and local cheeses, and not beans.
21-09-10 20:53:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: including but not limited to, beans
21-09-10 20:53:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: To his comment I went yikes
21-09-10 20:53:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and now you're all posting this on tik tok tryin to get me canceled
21-09-10 20:53:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Maw (Epitaph Black Ops in I3)@Iberia: oh no
21-09-10 20:53:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: it's the hat and the music played live that makes it Mexican
21-09-10 20:53:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: If someone calls a pizza with beans on a "mexican pizza", that reads to me like a racist jokes, and not an actual dish from mexico.
21-09-10 20:53:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I miss Ploosk
21-09-10 20:53:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Maw (Epitaph Black Ops in I3)@Iberia: that dude's the worst though
21-09-10 20:54:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: insinuating that beans are the only reference to mexican
21-09-10 20:54:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I like him
21-09-10 20:54:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: is racist
21-09-10 20:54:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: except he's bad at timing train departures
21-09-10 20:54:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hey sini
21-09-10 20:54:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: sup
21-09-10 20:54:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: come to bflo and eat some wings with me
21-09-10 20:54:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ok brt
21-09-10 20:54:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: we need to get together again soon
21-09-10 20:54:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: with a generous interpretation of 'brt'
21-09-10 20:54:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yeah we do
21-09-10 20:54:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yeah i just mean at some point
21-09-10 20:54:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but you keep moving to places where I don't need to go for work :(
21-09-10 20:54:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you travel more than i do but if i go anywhere i'll see if you're going there too
21-09-10 20:54:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: well I don't travel atoll
21-09-10 20:55:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: these days
21-09-10 20:55:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i'm unlikely to go to california any time soon though
21-09-10 20:55:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but your old ass-grabbing masters are just down the road
21-09-10 20:55:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: oh
21-09-10 20:55:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: may be going to texas soonish
21-09-10 20:55:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: no Europe?
21-09-10 20:55:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you used to be all "blizzcon sini, blizzcon"
21-09-10 20:55:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so i found out an interesting thing while talking to my shrink
21-09-10 20:55:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: actually, not for this audience prolly
21-09-10 20:55:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's not the voice of god if it's telling you to sin
21-09-10 20:57:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Hey, God works in mysterious ways.
21-09-10 20:58:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Also, Salius, real sorry for harping on this, but what logical argument did I ignore?
21-09-10 20:59:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: You claimed that was a thing I'm doing, but when I asked for specific examples you just sort of trailed off.
21-09-10 20:59:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I'm sure that wasn't on purpose, so I figured I'd remind you that answering that would be useful.
21-09-10 21:11:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: lol you two make for a good comedy hour
21-09-10 21:11:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: and and as for the mexican pizza thing don't put words in my mouth, I expressly indicated it wasn't my idea
21-09-10 21:11:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i got something to put into your mouth
21-09-10 21:12:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: w8 that's sini's line
21-09-10 21:13:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I know nothing Jon Snow
21-09-10 21:13:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh hey both Jon Snow and Rob Stark are in one of the upcoming Marvel movies It hink
21-09-10 21:13:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Yeah, I should probably have been clearer on that, Shen, I didn't mean to imply to that you invented the "mexican pizza".
21-09-10 21:14:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: eternals looks like it might be good
21-09-10 21:14:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: if you're into marvel movies
21-09-10 21:14:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: idk about this 10 rings thing tho
21-09-10 21:14:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: did you ever watch their TV show called Inhumans
21-09-10 21:14:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i'll watch it for lore reasons
21-09-10 21:14:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: no
21-09-10 21:14:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it was terrible and it's soured me to the Eternals
21-09-10 21:14:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: fair
21-09-10 21:14:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: same here
21-09-10 21:14:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but you also think the best movie ever is terrible so
21-09-10 21:14:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: both Marvel, both about an old race of meta-beings that observe the Earth and don't interfere
21-09-10 21:15:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Inhumans is/was a TV show and it was super terrible
21-09-10 21:15:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but interstellar was a movie and it was super amazing
21-09-10 21:15:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that's amazing. every single thing you just said was wrong.
21-09-10 21:16:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: best movie
21-09-10 21:16:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: best movie directed by Christopher Nolan starring Matthew McConaughey and Anne Hathaway
21-09-10 21:17:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Which movie is best is completely subjective.
21-09-10 21:17:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: That said, it's Super Mario Bros. (1993).
21-09-10 21:17:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: It always was, and it always will be, the perfect film.
21-09-10 21:18:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Bob Hoskins & John Leguizamo need to team up more often
21-09-10 21:18:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: If the function of cinema was to perfect the artform, we could have wrapped it up on May 29th, 1993.
21-09-10 21:19:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Fortunately, the function of cinema is to allow people to express themselves through art, or, more cynically, to act as a tool of extracting wealth from the lower classes and concentrating it with the ultra rich, so we can keep making movies.
21-09-10 21:19:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: But to be clear, the perfect movie has already been made, and it's Super Mario Bros. (1993).
21-09-10 21:22:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: might be difficult since Crat reaped Hoskins 7 years ago
21-09-10 21:22:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh no :(
21-09-10 21:23:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: wait. What if what I really meant is that John Leguizamo should die?
21-09-10 21:23:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: naw, I'd never do that
21-09-10 21:41:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: dog turds
21-09-10 21:41:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: nice fresh dog turds for a leafeon to sink her roots into.  mmmmmm.
21-09-10 22:02:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I had to look that up
21-09-10 22:02:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: lol
21-09-10 22:02:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: is that a real thing in a pokemon game, having pokemon eat dog poop?
21-09-10 22:03:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: not eat per se but I wouldn't be surprised if a leafeon, being a plant type, would enjoy the fertilizer.
21-09-10 22:03:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: well that makes sense
21-09-10 22:04:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: are there dog-like pokemon? Maybe if you have both a dog pokemon and a leafeon, one can heal the other
21-09-10 22:11:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: heh, that does sound kinda neat
21-09-10 22:11:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: animals and plants have been in symbiosis since the dawn of time after all
21-09-10 22:11:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: we are all one hot mess
21-09-10 22:13:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: that's something rude to be said
21-09-10 22:14:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: not as rude as "that's something rude to be said"
21-09-10 22:14:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I doubt it. lets query the oracle
21-09-10 22:14:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: dialing
21-09-10 22:17:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: There are plenty of dog-like pokemon. In generation I alone you have Growlithe and Arcanine, and arguably Vulpix and Ninetails.
21-09-10 22:20:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Further to that you have the three divine dogs from Generation II, Raikou, Entei and Suicune; generation III introduces Poocyhena and Mightyena, Electrike and Manectric (which are arguably more cat-like, but still).
21-09-10 22:20:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: wait a minute. I heard from sali's high school teacher that he did, in fact, have horsecock like sini
21-09-10 22:20:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: And there are more dogs-like and arguably dog-like pokemon further down the generations.
21-09-10 22:26:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: pleas don't query Oracle, use PostGreSQL
21-09-10 22:27:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: u like open things?
21-09-10 22:28:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: yes, especially goatse
21-09-10 22:29:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: so rude
21-09-10 22:29:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: that's the guy, sini
21-09-10 22:31:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: test
21-09-10 22:31:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: ok!
21-09-10 22:32:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you're so rude
21-09-10 22:32:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: I was joking about goatse.  I do like open source software though
21-09-10 22:32:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you probably think this line is about you
21-09-10 22:33:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Viri's browser autocompletes "g" to "goatse", he's super familiar
21-09-10 22:34:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: damn algorithms
21-09-10 22:35:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: lmfao
21-09-10 22:55:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: and of course a giant dog using the Swallow Whole move before you turn into a turd many hours later
21-09-10 23:07:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: I think I'm...losing my marbles
21-09-10 23:22:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: dex
21-09-10 23:22:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i got my first motorboat
21-09-10 23:22:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i now understand how easy it is to lose it
21-09-10 23:22:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: dayum wtf is the end of the bloody tunnel.
21-09-10 23:22:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the turn off button is right next to the demolish button
21-09-10 23:23:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: horrendous month for meetings, and yet another one popped up for tonight.
21-09-10 23:23:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: there should be a hotkey so you dont click the wrong thing
21-09-10 23:23:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: there should be hotkeys for people.
21-09-10 23:23:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: megavolt hot.
21-09-10 23:26:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: what tunnellll?
21-09-10 23:26:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: ...I may as well be dunk right nowww
21-09-11 00:13:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: ...bleah, change of subject I guess
21-09-11 03:10:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: sometimes I forget dinoreality is stronger than actualreality and when crat says "i got my first motorboat" I don't immediately think of dinoworld
21-09-11 03:10:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: for a few moments I'm like "wow, that's unexpected"
21-09-11 03:10:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and then I realize it's totally expected
21-09-11 03:11:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I need to dinoimmerse myself again
21-09-11 03:11:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: well, again == for real
21-09-11 03:13:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I think I seen crat on a ferryboat once... I don't think I can picture a motorboat
21-09-11 03:40:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: aaaand now I'm getting login spam again
21-09-11 08:11:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: hi
21-09-11 14:12:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: no more fight? *shrug*
21-09-11 14:13:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Crisis, how about super mario II movie and your strong opinion about it to provoke salius or other to complain against you?
21-09-11 14:14:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: or someone to shoot at quix knowing he may read logs but won't interact?
21-09-11 14:15:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: i3 is loosing traditions
21-09-11 14:15:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: or poopy shentino dogs?
21-09-11 14:17:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: well that was fun, had a blackout irl.
21-09-11 14:17:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: good thing my mud was on a VM
21-09-11 14:24:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: shentino poopy dogz
21-09-11 14:29:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: there was a super mario II movie?
21-09-11 14:59:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: does it matter?
21-09-11 15:00:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: There was a planned sequel to the SMB movie that was cancelled.
21-09-11 15:00:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: And I think there's a new movie in production?
21-09-11 15:00:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: But not, I think, a sequel.
21-09-11 15:15:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: if anything they should release the damn Spyro the Dragon movie
21-09-11 15:16:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: turns out mario *was* bowser all along. supper mario brothers was an allegory for all of our behaviors that distance us from our partners
21-09-11 15:16:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: ugh crat lmao
21-09-11 15:17:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: don't get me started on the bowsette meme
21-09-11 16:23:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: mario brothers is an allegory for trans struggles
21-09-11 16:23:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: we're all an italian plumber deep down
21-09-11 16:25:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i'm grumpy today and i don't know why but it's making me more grumpy
21-09-11 16:27:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but now i want to be princess peach
21-09-11 16:47:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: your privilege blinds you to the hurtfulness of your words and you are an unserious cog in the machine of heteronormative imperialism
21-09-11 16:55:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: If you're in places that are not 'safe', like your apartment or the coffins, you should be at least reasonably responsive.
21-09-11 16:55:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: mischan
21-09-11 17:11:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: tell me more abou tthe coffins
21-09-11 17:12:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: It's the coffin hotel, where new players can live while they're working to get established in the game world.
21-09-11 17:12:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: It's shitty accomodations, but it's free. Pretty standard stuff for the kind of game that NeonMOO is.
21-09-11 17:13:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: thank you
21-09-11 17:21:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Yawelks.
21-09-11 18:00:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: heteronormative imperialism
21-09-11 18:00:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, that's just imperialism, generally.
21-09-11 18:02:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: If you mean the erasure and dismantling of traditional and indigineous traditions around sexuality in favour of the prevailing heteronormative view of, like, the Catholic church, but more generally just a whole bunch of fucking Euro as fuck weirdos.
21-09-11 18:03:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i'm fine with erasing all traditions that involve genital mutilation regardless of origin story
21-09-11 18:04:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Out of interest, does that extend to the widespread practice of circumsision in the present day US?
21-09-11 18:04:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: 'Cause it often doesn't, because reasons.
21-09-11 18:04:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that practice is clearly genital mutilation, so yes.
21-09-11 18:05:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: But yeah, IGM is bad.
21-09-11 18:05:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: what is the I for?
21-09-11 18:05:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: "Infant".
21-09-11 18:05:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i'm willing to say any mutilation before the age of majority
21-09-11 18:05:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: It's the usual term, since adults can do whatever the hell they want to their bodies.
21-09-11 18:06:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: So, like, it's the term that people use.
21-09-11 18:06:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Maybe it's not the most precise term, but it's pretty well established.
21-09-11 18:06:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: adults can do whatever they want
21-09-11 18:06:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: probably not a good idea to allow children to sterilize themselves however.
21-09-11 18:07:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Oh, I see what you're doing.
21-09-11 18:07:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: Oh right joshua so why don't we open all the jails and prisons and stuff?
21-09-11 18:07:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: I hope you're being sarcastic
21-09-11 18:07:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: uhh
21-09-11 18:08:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: adults can do whatever they want to their own bodies?
21-09-11 18:08:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, I think it's clear from context that Joshua means they can do whatever they want to themselves.
21-09-11 18:08:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i'm not sure how that goes to 'open all the jails and prisons'
21-09-11 18:08:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Not that they can do anything at all.
21-09-11 18:08:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but sure, we should let everybody out of prison who is there for a victimless crime
21-09-11 18:08:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: CLEANUP ON AISLE SHENTINO
21-09-11 18:08:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, I absolutely do think we should open all the jails and prisons, but that's not Joshua's stance, nor does it logically follow from Joshua's stance.
21-09-11 18:09:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: some people are violent and dangerous to the rest of society and their shit should not be allowed.  yeah maybe we don't need prisons if we have constitutional carry and a willingness to pull a trigger.
21-09-11 18:10:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but i doubt it
21-09-11 18:10:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: No, that's not...
21-09-11 18:10:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: gotta have something to do with the really fucked up people.
21-09-11 18:10:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: No, Joshua, that's not it.
21-09-11 18:10:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: just double checking,  Be more clear in case someone else takes it out of context :)
21-09-11 18:10:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: what is the right answer, crisis?
21-09-11 18:10:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: what do we do with violent shitheads?
21-09-11 18:10:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: rapists, murderers?
21-09-11 18:12:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: bernie madoff and bill cosby and john wayne gacy
21-09-11 18:12:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, that's a complicated question, but it's pretty clear that prison isn't the answer.
21-09-11 18:12:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: As people who have been through the prison system are more likely to commit further crimes, not less.
21-09-11 18:13:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Americas implementation of the prison system clearly isn't the answer.
21-09-11 18:13:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: In the US, today, a murderer that is caught and sent to prison is ultimately more likely to murder more people than a murderer who is never caught.
21-09-11 18:13:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Prisons _only_ make things worse.
21-09-11 18:13:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so what do you do with the murderer?
21-09-11 18:13:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Like I said, you sure as shit don't send them to prison.
21-09-11 18:14:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Doing nothing is preferable to that.
21-09-11 18:14:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so you release them back into society?
21-09-11 18:14:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: execute them?
21-09-11 18:14:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: doing nothing leaves them free to go murder more people
21-09-11 18:14:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, yeah, it does leave them free to murder more people, but, uh, they don't.
21-09-11 18:14:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i mean it depends on the circumstance, don't it?
21-09-11 18:14:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: When murderers are not caught, the thing that happens isn't generally that they go and murder more people.
21-09-11 18:15:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: maybe if it's the guy who accidentally killed someone, or maybe murdered someone in the heat of passion.
21-09-11 18:15:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: john wayne gacy though?
21-09-11 18:16:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: You do know that there are serial killers on the loose today worse than John Wayne Gacy, right?
21-09-11 18:16:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and you think the correct course of action is to do nothing about them?
21-09-11 18:16:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Like, the rate at which any murderers are put in prisons varies from "absurdly low" to "hilariously low".
21-09-11 18:16:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: It's what's already happening in the US.
21-09-11 18:16:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Murderers are, _as a rule_, not caught.
21-09-11 18:17:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: And somehow that's fine, on the whole.
21-09-11 18:17:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yes, americas prisons are largely full of the low hanging fruit
21-09-11 18:17:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: drug offenders, colored kids who kamala harris convinced to forfeit their rights.
21-09-11 18:17:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: people who made an easy win so the DA could advance politically.
21-09-11 18:17:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Like, I don't like Kamala Harris either, but let's not pretend this isn't all about Reagan's War on Drugs.
21-09-11 18:18:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i mean nixons war on drugs
21-09-11 18:18:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but sure it can be reagans too
21-09-11 18:18:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Harris is shitty for perpetuating that whole mess, but she didn't start it.
21-09-11 18:18:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: well the mess predates nixon even
21-09-11 18:18:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it just didn't have a snazzy name like the war on drugs
21-09-11 18:19:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: 'reefer madness' was the 30's.
21-09-11 18:19:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: have you seen the Classic American Cinema 'Cool Hand Luke'?
21-09-11 18:19:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I have not, no.
21-09-11 18:19:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: worth a watch.  a young paul newman
21-09-11 18:20:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it reminds us that in america
21-09-11 18:20:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so hot
21-09-11 18:20:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: no matter how trivial the incursion
21-09-11 18:20:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the wages of sin are death
21-09-11 18:23:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: A lot of it obviously goes back to William Randolph Hearst, and while Nixon certainly did use drugs as a scapegoat to jail his political enemies, the mass incarceration really exploded under Reagan.
21-09-11 18:24:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Ronald "History's Greatest Monster" Reagan, as I like to call him for the purposes of the joke I'm making in this sentence.
21-09-11 18:24:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that's a little generous but yeah he deserves a spot in the pantheon of horrors.
21-09-11 18:26:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: embodiment of the banality of evil
21-09-11 18:27:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: That said, who to blame for mass incarceration doesn't really matter, the important thing is to stop it.
21-09-11 18:28:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: And yeah, ocasionally you get a monster like John Wayne Gacy or Paul Manafort.
21-09-11 18:29:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: But those kinds of absolute ghouls are rare enough that I don't think we should build a huge chunk of our society around maybe having a place to put them.
21-09-11 18:29:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's because it's a business like everything else in our society
21-09-11 18:30:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and business needs growth
21-09-11 18:30:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so you end up with private prisons and they want to get bigger
21-09-11 18:30:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: nobody wants to build smaller prisons
21-09-11 18:30:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: And a lot of the danger they pose can be mitigated by making it so that the authority over other people any person can execercise is limited.
21-09-11 18:30:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: oijinzvfat3qu8
21-09-11 18:30:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you mean by giving everybody guns?
21-09-11 18:31:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: this is the way
21-09-11 18:31:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, no, I don't mean by giving everyone guns.
21-09-11 18:32:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean by extending democracy to all spheres of life, so that people have control over the things they make and how people can use those things.
21-09-11 18:32:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]:
21-09-11 18:33:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that sounds lovely.
21-09-11 18:33:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i'm not sure how that fixes the problem?
21-09-11 18:34:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, it doesn't, not on its own.
21-09-11 18:35:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: But to keep using Paul Manafort as an example, because he's killed way more people than John Wayne Gacy ever could dream of, maybe it would be good to get rid of stuff where one person can decide what entire countries with millions of people in them do?
21-09-11 18:36:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: my libertarian sensibilities concur.  slay the kinds.
21-09-11 18:36:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the kings.
21-09-11 18:36:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: wazoople
21-09-11 18:36:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: So that profoundly anti-social slimeballs can't use an overwrought apparatus of violence to enrich themselves at the cost of the lives of others.
21-09-11 18:37:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but if you don't have politicians, what do you do with your anti social weasels?
21-09-11 18:37:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i don't think you're allowed to just throw them down the well or whatever
21-09-11 18:39:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Isn't that your solution, tho', open carry for everyone and a willingness to pull the trigger?
21-09-11 18:40:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: It's less than ideal.
21-09-11 18:40:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i doubt it will matter.
21-09-11 18:40:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: at least the cops can't just roll up kids for weapons violations anymore.
21-09-11 18:41:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: But also, the real scary thing about John Wayne Gacy isn't really that he killed people.
21-09-11 18:41:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: It's that he didn't really kill so many more people than you do.
21-09-11 18:41:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Or I do.
21-09-11 18:41:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Any of us do.
21-09-11 18:41:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh was he just a single digits guy?
21-09-11 18:41:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i thought there was a threshold.
21-09-11 18:42:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: He was convicted on 12, AFAIK.
21-09-11 18:42:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i mean i think that's an order of magnitude over what i would consider the average
21-09-11 18:42:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: But the fact is that you've probably killed that many people yourself.
21-09-11 18:42:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but like wealth, the average isn't really good to go on
21-09-11 18:42:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i know a guy whos in the hundreds or maybe thousands.
21-09-11 18:42:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: If you tally up all the people who died mining the coltan for your phone, or who died for your coffee, or your chocolate.
21-09-11 18:43:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Those people all die for reasons that aren't quite your fault, that are unavoidable, but they still end up dying for _your_ (or _my_) comfort.
21-09-11 18:43:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: So you're saying we're the real monsters?
21-09-11 18:44:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Well, no, not entirely.
21-09-11 18:44:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I'm gonna be the best me I can be!
21-09-11 18:44:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: The system is the real monster. The system that forces us to choose between absurd privation and actual murder and slavery.
21-09-11 18:44:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: did john wayne gacy not drink coffee or use fossil fuels?
21-09-11 18:45:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: No, he did all those things, obviously, but the people he killed on top of the number of people we all kill is but a blip.
21-09-11 18:45:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: If you think of him as having killed 12 people and you as having killed none, then yeah, he's a monster. Fry him.
21-09-11 18:45:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: JWG was convicted for 33 murders
21-09-11 18:46:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Well, 33 then, it doesn't really matter in this context.
21-09-11 18:46:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yeah! facts don't matter, quix!
21-09-11 18:46:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: https://pbfcomics.com/comics/amends/
21-09-11 18:46:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: No, it's not that facts don't matter, it's that the specific magnitude of the number isn't super relevant.
21-09-11 18:47:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's relevant to at least 33 peope
21-09-11 18:47:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: damn zaphod going off the rails
21-09-11 18:47:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: slow down there buddy
21-09-11 18:47:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Well, in this context, to 21 people, surely, as I already accounted for 12 of those people.
21-09-11 18:48:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: The number of people he killed isn't super relevant.
21-09-11 18:48:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the real problem, tho, is CLOWNS
21-09-11 18:48:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Because yeah, the difference between "33" and "none" is obviously massive.
21-09-11 18:48:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: But the difference between "43" and "10" doesn't seem as massive.
21-09-11 18:48:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: The difference between "83" and "50" seems almost trivial.
21-09-11 18:48:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it does if you see their faces when you close your eyes
21-09-11 18:49:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: And that's the thing, we all end up killing a bunch of people. We end up _having_ to kill a bunch of people.
21-09-11 18:49:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Which is fucked up.
21-09-11 18:49:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: sure is nice not being at the bottom of the shit pile
21-09-11 18:50:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: And I don't know how many people you or I have killed, it's really difficult to figure out.
21-09-11 18:50:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: not if you see their faces every time you close your eyes
21-09-11 18:50:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Deniability is built into every link in the chain.
21-09-11 18:51:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: gautamalan coca cola is the best coca cola on the planet
21-09-11 18:51:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but they also murder their workers.
21-09-11 18:51:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Which is of course extremely fun.
21-09-11 18:51:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i mean it seems expensive and difficult to me
21-09-11 18:51:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but i'm not in the third world
21-09-11 18:51:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the idea of just ganking my employees seems unreasonable.
21-09-11 18:52:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: quix is just...quixotic
21-09-11 18:52:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Well, it seems unreasonable until you realise that if they are allowed to organise, they might demand _slightly_ higher wages.
21-09-11 18:52:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: why not just fire them?
21-09-11 18:53:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: So instead of making seventy dollars for every hundred dollars of goods your workers produce, you earn... sixty-eight dollars for every hundred dollars of goods.
21-09-11 18:53:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: sounds like it's time to invest in automation
21-09-11 18:53:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: And they absolutely do fire them.
21-09-11 18:53:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: replace all the workers with machines
21-09-11 18:53:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: keep the best and brightest on as technicians.
21-09-11 18:53:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: What does that achieve, tho'?
21-09-11 18:54:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: A world full of machines making Coca Cola that nobody can afford to buy because they don't have jobs?
21-09-11 18:54:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i mean lots of people will still have jobs
21-09-11 18:54:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: someone has to subsidize our first world lifestyles.
21-09-11 18:54:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Also, funny thing about automation; bosses keep talking about how they could so easily replace all their workers with robots, but somehow there's also a labour crisis?
21-09-11 18:55:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Which seems contradictory.
21-09-11 18:55:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's because it isn't that easy
21-09-11 18:55:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you can't just do it overnight
21-09-11 18:55:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: they always used it as a threat and never did the r&d
21-09-11 18:55:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that also costs money
21-09-11 18:55:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, that was more or less the point I was making, but sarcastically.
21-09-11 18:55:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Well, not the "never did the R&D" part.
21-09-11 18:55:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but i promise if someone can come in and replace workers with robots, they will replace workers with robots.
21-09-11 18:56:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: And yet, labour crisis.
21-09-11 18:56:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I thought capitalism was supposed to innovate that shit.
21-09-11 18:57:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it is
21-09-11 18:58:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: And yet, labour crisis.
21-09-11 18:58:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yeah well give people a taste of the very bottom of the middle class and what do yu expect?
21-09-11 18:59:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: 'wait i dont have to eat dog food anymore?'
21-09-11 18:59:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: there is no way to avoid a wage increase with inflation the way it is.
21-09-11 19:00:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: whose time is worth less than a combo meal?
21-09-11 19:00:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: nobodies.
21-09-11 19:02:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: wait what the shit
21-09-11 19:03:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: john wayne gacy was a serial killer who would have killed more boys if he hadnt been caught.
21-09-11 19:03:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: there are people who need to be forcefully separated from society
21-09-11 19:03:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i get the disdain for the american judicial system but lets not go off the fucking deep end
21-09-11 19:04:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i miss quix
21-09-11 19:05:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: maybe i should invite crisis to nazi discord
21-09-11 19:05:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: wtf nazi discord?
21-09-11 19:05:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: vs commie discord.
21-09-11 19:05:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I'm-a go with "No thank you." on that.
21-09-11 19:06:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: definieely get crisis on there
21-09-11 19:06:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that would make me hang out on discord, seeing crisis and quix interact
21-09-11 19:06:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I'd rather not be in a Discord server with people whose ethos makes them seek to murder me for existing.
21-09-11 19:06:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Doesn't seem like a good time.
21-09-11 19:06:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's not actual nazis
21-09-11 19:07:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i mean one is catholic and has swastika tattoos
21-09-11 19:07:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: heh
21-09-11 19:07:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: good ole xrak
21-09-11 19:07:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: im not sure he has actual swastikas
21-09-11 19:07:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ok so one is sort of a nazi?
21-09-11 19:07:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i think they are the crypto swastkas
21-09-11 19:07:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: like the celtic cross thing
21-09-11 19:07:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the pussy swastika
21-09-11 19:07:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but more like just a dumbass and not like a go out and hunt people nazi
21-09-11 19:07:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: "the tattoo you get if you dont have the balls to get an outright swastika"
21-09-11 19:08:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I'm still not loving your pitch, buddy.
21-09-11 19:08:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i'm not your buddy, pal
21-09-11 19:08:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: anyway they say they arent nazis and who am i to judge
21-09-11 19:08:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I'm not your pal, friend.
21-09-11 19:08:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I'm not your friend, loose associate.
21-09-11 19:09:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]O: I guess I kind of am your loose associate.
21-09-11 19:09:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: But also, don't do yourself down like that, Crat.
21-09-11 19:10:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: oh THOSE discords.  I'm in both lol
21-09-11 19:10:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: You might not be a serious person, but you're still a person, with a mind, and the ability, I assume, to look at what people are doing and saying, and evaluating which, if any, of their claims about themselves are truthful.
21-09-11 19:10:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: having said that
21-09-11 19:10:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: what if the real nazis were the friends we made along the way
21-09-11 19:11:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, hopefully not, right?
21-09-11 19:11:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i dont really agree with the death penalty and i dont think john wayne gacy should have been executed
21-09-11 19:11:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Like, if you made friends with nazis, then, uh, maybe examine your beliefs.
21-09-11 19:11:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Because there might, even if you're not a nazi, be some nazi shit in there.
21-09-11 19:11:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: he took a lot of secrets with him and from a purely judicial view, the state has an interest in increasing the chances of finding his accomplices
21-09-11 19:12:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and it seems clear he had accomplices
21-09-11 19:12:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: he was fat and in terrible shape and the entrance for the crawlspace very small, he could barely get his fat ass down there much less drag and bury corpses
21-09-11 19:13:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, yeah, if you believe the carceral state is acting in the interest of the common good and public safety, it doesn't make much sense.
21-09-11 19:13:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: If, however, you assume that they are acting to justify themselves in the public eye, and they favour flashy gestures over substantive action...
21-09-11 19:14:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: The execution of JWG makes a lot of sense from a PR point of view. It's a great cathartic moment.
21-09-11 19:14:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you should watch the peackock+ documentary series on gacy. it's a devastating indictment of the illinois police
21-09-11 19:14:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the police suck
21-09-11 19:14:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's a thing
21-09-11 19:15:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: 'yeah we didn't really care enough to go looking for the real killer'
21-09-11 19:15:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: there are all sorts of weird inconsistencies in the cazse
21-09-11 19:15:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I seriously doubt anything could make me think less of the Illinois police, but I'll keep that in mind.
21-09-11 19:15:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: 'it was a lot easier to just make this retard confress and then have him gassed.  itll make the public happy.'
21-09-11 19:15:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but influential people made their careers on the john wayne gacy case
21-09-11 19:15:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: anything that points to bad police work gets shut down
21-09-11 19:16:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Also, hey, I wonder if the fact that JWG was allowed to get to 33 victims had anything to do with the fact that his victims were gay men.
21-09-11 19:16:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Probably not, right.
21-09-11 19:16:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: well it's like jeffrey dahmer
21-09-11 19:16:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: one of his victims literally ran up to police and begged to be rescued
21-09-11 19:16:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and they were like lol gays
21-09-11 19:17:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Funny how that works.
21-09-11 19:17:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: one of gacys victims that he miraculously didnt kill spent weeks hunting him down because the police wouldnt, and he found his name addrss etc
21-09-11 19:17:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: they were like lol gays
21-09-11 19:20:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so anyway i dunno if the optimal place for a monster is a jail cell or a psychiatric lockup or a norwegian style rehabilitation campus, but there are definitely people who need to be isolated from society due to being violently dangerous
21-09-11 19:22:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: im sure if breivik was asked whether he would re-offend, he would say of course not, i've made my point, you can let me go
21-09-11 19:22:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but i would not let him go. he is clearly the kind of guy that would kill 77 people
21-09-11 19:29:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, he said he wouldn't re-offend, who are you to judge?
21-09-11 19:31:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: not about judgement in this case
21-09-11 19:32:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: a man who murdered 77 people, mostly children, for political reasons, and whose politics have not changed, is manifestly a risk
21-09-11 19:33:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, that sounds like a judgement, but whatever.
21-09-11 19:33:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's a risk assessment but whatever
21-09-11 19:34:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Oh, of course, it's a risk assessment, which is different from a judgement because reasons.
21-09-11 19:34:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: is there anything you wont trivially debate
21-09-11 19:34:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, no, not really.
21-09-11 19:34:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you remind me of a person who stares at a finger rather than at the thing being pointed to
21-09-11 19:36:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: That's kind of needlessly simplistic language, isn't it?
21-09-11 19:36:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: QED
21-09-11 19:37:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I assume you're being metaphorical, but like, if someone is trying to direct your attention to something, isn't it worth considering what they are directing your attention to, why they're directing your attention there, and what they're directing your attention away from?
21-09-11 19:37:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Like, I understand that there are situations in which all of that analysis is unnecessary or hashtag too much, but like, we're shitposting on Grapevine.
21-09-11 19:38:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i feel we have sufficiently demonstrated the truth of my proposition. you need not continue to substantiate it
21-09-11 19:38:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: What I'm saying is that I disagree that looking at the finger rather than what is being pointed to is a bad thing, at least in general.
21-09-11 19:39:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yes i know you feel that
21-09-11 19:39:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: actually crat I'm going to question what your proposition even is.  How do we know if it's even being substantiated in the first place?
21-09-11 19:39:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and you call me unserious
21-09-11 19:39:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: So what do you do? Just blithely accept that whatever other people have decided you should pay attention to?
21-09-11 19:39:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Crisis[email protected]: Like, is that the thing we should do?
21-09-11 19:40:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Is "Don't think about the finger, just look at the moon, just take in that heavenly glory!" the thing you want people to do?
21-09-11 19:41:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: "Never mind who is pointing or why, it's a finger pointing at something! Look at the thing!"
21-09-11 19:41:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i will say that you are better than quix in one way
21-09-11 19:41:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you employ more than just one rhetorical fallacy in your specious trolling
21-09-11 19:41:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so hats off to you on at least having a wider spectrum of bullshit
21-09-11 19:41:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Except I'm not trolling, and I'm not being specious.
21-09-11 19:42:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Like, that's a genuine question on my part: What do you want people to do?
21-09-11 19:42:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Is your stance genuinely that people should ignore the finger?
21-09-11 19:42:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: sorry, i do not intend to indulge your false choice
21-09-11 19:43:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: What false choice?
21-09-11 19:44:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
21-09-11 19:44:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: my description of you stands and it is not necessary to engage in a pro or anti finger debate
21-09-11 19:44:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, that's true, but we were considering the isse of pro- vs. anti- finger.
21-09-11 19:45:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Well, not really.
21-09-11 19:45:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: no. not really
21-09-11 19:45:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I'm not saying you shouldn't look at the moon.
21-09-11 19:45:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: look i can see you're bored and want to debate someone about something
21-09-11 19:45:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I'm just saying that it's always worth keeping in mind whose finger it is, and why they are pointing at what they are pointing at.
21-09-11 19:45:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: at the moment i am otherwise occupied
21-09-11 19:46:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: I'm anti pro-finger and pro anti-finger
21-09-11 19:48:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: What false choice, tho', Crat. Where did I present something as being a dilemma?
21-09-11 19:49:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: What is the thing you are accusing me of _specifically_, rather than, you know, just throwing out some jargon.
21-09-11 19:58:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: as an honorary member of the imud_gossip jury I second the question
21-09-11 20:00:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: pro or anti finger is the flase choice
21-09-11 20:00:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it is an unnecessary rhetorical rabbit hole
21-09-11 20:01:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Wow, it sure would be embarassing for me if you could point to anything I said and show that I what I claimed as options were pro- or anti- finger.
21-09-11 20:01:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: But fortunately for everyone involved, that's not actually what I said.
21-09-11 20:01:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: What I said was that your finger analogy is bad.
21-09-11 20:01:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Or just the literal claim.
21-09-11 20:02:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I said that thinking about what is being presented to you, and why, is a good thing.
21-09-11 20:02:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I never said that you can only look at the moon, or only look at the finger.
21-09-11 20:02:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: What I'm saying is that it's important to think about who Mr. Miyagi actually is.
21-09-11 20:03:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Why is this goober who has had you painting fences all summer insisting that you should look at the moon and not think about why people are telling you to look at the moon?
21-09-11 20:03:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: That's a valid question, isn't it?
21-09-11 20:09:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: And just to be clear, when I say "That sounds like a judgement." or "That's different from a judgement for, you know reasons.", I'm not saying that it's bad to make judgements.
21-09-11 20:09:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Quite the opposite.
21-09-11 20:09:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i think my analogy was perfectly understandable and quite correct wihout the need for all this extra justification on your part
21-09-11 20:09:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Well, no, your analogy was bad, and the thing it was an analogy for is bad.
21-09-11 20:10:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, it was perfectly understandable, no argument there.
21-09-11 20:10:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: But it was certainly not correct.
21-09-11 20:11:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: What I have a problem with is your inconsistency.
21-09-11 20:12:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: How in certain cases you're perfectly happy to make judgements, and in other cases, well, who can say? If people say one thing, and perform another, who's to say what the truth is?!
21-09-11 20:16:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: My point is, and continues to be, that you're not a serious person.
21-09-11 20:16:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: And I guess as I keep falling for your bullshit, I'm not a serious person either.
21-09-11 20:33:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ??????????????
21-09-11 20:33:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hmmm
21-09-11 20:36:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: https://www.omgchinese.com/dictionary/chinese/%E8%84%AB%E8%A4%B2%E5%AD%90%E6%94%BE%E5%B1%81
21-09-11 20:37:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Did you know that the Chinese use the same word for crisis and opportunity?
21-09-11 20:37:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Because if you did know that, you know, no, that's not true, you've been lied to.
21-09-11 20:38:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Like, there are obviously things we can learn from one another, and China has done the "being China" thing more or less full on for 5000 years, probably something to learn thre.
21-09-11 20:39:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: But idioms and linguistic features don't really hold truth and and of themselves.
21-09-11 20:39:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Life is just more complicated than that.
21-09-11 23:40:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: what have happened?:(
21-09-11 23:59:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: Zaphod what kind of control character junk are you sending on i3?
21-09-11 23:59:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: I had to put in a ^ converter because of folks like you
21-09-12 00:09:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: Crisis: I wonder what kind of parser chinese coders use for MUDs :D
21-09-12 00:46:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: gold and red
21-09-12 01:16:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: only zaph-word I caught was "pants".
21-09-12 01:17:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh, remove pants to fart.
21-09-12 01:18:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: well, those of us with highly acidic farts have learned the wisdom of that long ago.
21-09-12 01:22:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yeah yeah yeah motherfuckers
21-09-12 01:22:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: crisis is my new favorite mudder
21-09-12 01:22:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: excuse me, i cannot figure ot now to consume a potion. i tried drink and use, advice please?
21-09-12 01:22:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: this is probably the wrong channel to ask
21-09-12 01:22:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: try 'quaff'
21-09-12 01:22:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: 'consume'
21-09-12 01:23:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Thank you all! Excuse me.
21-09-12 02:38:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: oh god "acidic farts"
21-09-12 14:53:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: dex i beat my first boss. didnt lose a single dino. looks like the bosses scale to the server difficulty and i dont need level 250 rexes after all
21-09-12 15:24:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: well that was painless, wish I'd had my virtual uptime to burn-test it though.  I just hotbooted my mud's driver process
21-09-12 18:58:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: done
21-09-12 18:58:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: implemented some more gv functionalities
21-09-12 18:58:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: about players
21-09-12 19:46:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: not sure about advantages or disadvantages, but i3 in who list packages considers idle time, if I'm not wrong. gv is not worried about timings
21-09-12 19:47:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: also, there are some new articles around based on multiverse concept
21-09-12 19:48:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: that uses intermud as something that exist since long ago, so multiverse is not entirely a new thing
21-09-12 19:49:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: thought about it sometime ago. in i3/gv, you can talk between muds, no matter theme and all the rest
21-09-12 19:49:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: would be interesting to have a mechanism to also convert a player from mud X to mud Y
21-09-12 19:50:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: like convert skills, stats, etc, to a similar balanced state in other muds
21-09-12 19:50:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: so if u are a top player in mud X, you would be a top player in mud Y
21-09-12 19:51:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: it would be needed a middleware for conversion, like i3/gv routers in middle of chat lines
21-09-12 19:52:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: another thought is that it could exist a third major chat line that could work serverless like how torrents work and share things
21-09-12 19:52:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, that's an interesting idea, but how would that work if if MUD X was some PTW bullshit and MUD Y wasn't.
21-09-12 19:52:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: so gv is not futuristic
21-09-12 19:53:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: well, something that could work was convert all your value into a common coin, that could be spent in destination muds
21-09-12 19:53:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, P2P isn't more futuristic or generally "better" than hub-and-spoke.
21-09-12 19:54:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: They have their distinct uses.
21-09-12 19:54:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: not saying is better, but prolly more resilient
21-09-12 19:54:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: if gv router explodes, comm line goes away
21-09-12 19:54:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: even though 15 muds are up
21-09-12 19:54:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: and reach each other
21-09-12 19:54:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: i3 had all these issues along the time
21-09-12 19:55:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: there's redundancy though
21-09-12 19:56:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: the conversion of stats, skills, rp points, kudos or whatsoever into a common coin is cool
21-09-12 19:57:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: with a top cap set, it would be easier to convert
21-09-12 19:57:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: like the top be 10000 coins
21-09-12 19:57:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: or 10000 potatoes
21-09-12 19:59:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: P2P isn't futuristic but prolly not used enough
21-09-12 20:00:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: But what do different MUDs gain by getting players with radically different outlooks with a headstart..
21-09-12 20:01:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: that's a good question
21-09-12 20:01:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Like, let's say that, IDK, Sindome were to get in on this, what is the Sindome community to gain by someone coming from, IDK, LotJ II and having their six million credits turned into 100,000 chyen?
21-09-12 20:01:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: that's a somewhat multiverse implementation
21-09-12 20:02:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: in an odd point of view, I think P2P is like vr or ar. all with great potential but still waiting the great use idea
21-09-12 20:03:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: except P2P, to share forbidden files because it's hard to stop the share
21-09-12 20:04:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I like to think about these mechanisms. if this is the first time you, Crisis, heard about this, prolly you asked that question because was the immediate idea popping
21-09-12 20:06:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: hmm... like I spent 20 years on my main mud and I'm not willing to try some other mud and start from scratch. I'm not newbie so it's just a matter of get into the theme
21-09-12 20:06:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: eventually
21-09-12 20:08:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: there are many that find fun doing the hard path in every mud, but they are not that many. perhaps that's a reason why the playerbase of most muds still the same since 20 years ago
21-09-12 20:08:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I started playing MUD on an Indy BBS in 1995ish(?)
21-09-12 20:08:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: what was the mud name?
21-09-12 20:09:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: ah! one of the things I did long ago was check similar commands between muds. like kill or attack. one should read different commands syntaxes for same objectives
21-09-12 20:09:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: like a common API :)
21-09-12 20:10:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: like html 5.0 in muds
21-09-12 20:10:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: prolly not easy, but the common mud protocols were initiatives like those
21-09-12 20:11:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: There are special syntaxes like use crowbar chains = break chain on door. That took forever to figure out then..! ^^
21-09-12 20:11:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: can't remember whom, but some years ago someone from a pay to play mud, if I'm not wrong, worked hard to define common protocols
21-09-12 20:13:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Scout, I guess that's a different problem. like a guess the syntax shit, even after you know exactly what you have to do to go ahead in the quest you are doing
21-09-12 20:13:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Sierra DOS game used kinda simular test parser, as well as text Scott Adams games.
21-09-12 20:14:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: games like monkey island that in most situations shown the player all the options to choose, was like stupid at that time but maybe fair enough to advance in the adventure
21-09-12 20:15:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: "not a true roleplay" eventually, because you are limited in your options... but the "guess the syntax" shit is the same except it doesn't reveal options
21-09-12 20:16:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: lol. we were thinking more or less the same
21-09-12 20:17:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Coding was way limited then.
21-09-12 20:18:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Sierra had a game series Quest for Glory, the out come was the the same but there were options how to end the game.
21-09-12 20:18:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: yeah for apotheosis i try to have actual commands have various options and aliases, but a lot of the majormud textblock scripted commands are still pretty static
21-09-12 20:20:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I found a few to be a challenge. "turn left candle right" was a surprising syntax to me.
21-09-12 20:21:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: yeah, with actual majormud people have just used megamud to do everything for over a decade and trying to figure out puzzle commands is kind of a lost art
21-09-12 20:21:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: there are even things where the developers actually broke the context clues at some point to a puzzle and no one noticed
21-09-12 20:22:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: u are shaitan of wheel of time and Turin of T2T? or different Shaitan?
21-09-12 20:22:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: different shaitan, shaitan is a character in the wheel of time book series so there are a million of them, i just happen to have this name on a character on my local development instance of apotheosis while i'm coding on it
21-09-12 20:23:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: the total freedom is cool. prolly I guess mushes and moos are the pure rpg games. when one puts mechanisms to help do things... will remove freedom
21-09-12 20:24:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: ok! asking if was same typist. still reading wheel of time because I played a mud with such time because it had similar commands to the mud I used to play
21-09-12 20:24:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: or a choice
21-09-12 20:24:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: that's why I decided to play it in spite of the other 600 muds in tmc
21-09-12 20:24:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: good time to get caught up on the wheel of time book series since it has a tv series coming out in november
21-09-12 20:24:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: even not knowing shit about theme at that time
21-09-12 20:24:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: oh!
21-09-12 20:24:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: nice
21-09-12 20:25:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: that and Discworld. my handicaps
21-09-12 20:25:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: though I've read like 15 times lord of the rings
21-09-12 20:26:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: they just put out the first proper trailer for the wheel of time show like a week ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fus4Xb_TLg
21-09-12 20:26:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I've read Prachet (SP)? The Hobbit and Gygax really got me into fantasy.
21-09-12 20:27:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: btw, I'm listening to audio book of lord of the rings everyday going and returning from job
21-09-12 20:27:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: II hope it's not destroyed like The Hobbit movies.
21-09-12 20:27:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: it's funny to know that book 1 takes 9 hours to read
21-09-12 20:28:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: the BBC LOTR audio?
21-09-12 20:28:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Brian Sibley?
21-09-12 20:28:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: and there's book 2 to finish the first book how is sold in my country
21-09-12 20:28:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: no
21-09-12 20:29:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: the other known guy
21-09-12 20:29:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: don't recall that name, so...
21-09-12 20:30:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: so first sold book is 19 hours long
21-09-12 20:31:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: youtube search '1968 Hobbit audio-film'
21-09-12 20:32:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: this guy even sings the songs that appear in the books
21-09-12 20:33:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: this LOTR by brian sibley was more like a radio play, different charater voices, songs, sound FX etc
21-09-12 20:40:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Thank you for the visit. Was fun. Take care and inform later about Wheel!
21-09-12 20:46:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: thank u too! u and plenty other should be around often. we have lots of fun here in i3 and grapevine comm lines
21-09-12 20:47:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: "lots of fun"
21-09-12 20:47:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: lol
21-09-12 20:47:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: lately, 75% is about dinosaurs
21-09-12 20:48:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: and dog poop
21-09-12 20:49:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I have seen the msgs while playing MM.
21-09-12 20:50:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: and acidic farts was a topic last night for some reason
21-09-12 20:51:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: MM?
21-09-12 20:51:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: yes. conversations for all tastes
21-09-12 20:53:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: even the most demanding
21-09-12 20:53:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: MM = MajorMud
21-09-12 20:54:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: playing now, tring to reach a orge's outpost.
21-09-12 20:54:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: trying
21-09-12 20:55:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: ok! have fun!
21-09-12 20:56:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hey, acidic farts are a real topic of concern among the elderly members here
21-09-12 20:56:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I'll look for you online here in the future! take care!
21-09-12 20:56:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I'll look for you online here in the future! take care!
21-09-13 01:14:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: wow I'm stupid
21-09-13 01:15:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: Updated i3d to allow manual disable...forgot to turn it back on lol
21-09-13 01:16:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: speaking of dog poop though apparently they used it in the middle ages to make leather
21-09-13 03:36:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: dunno bout that but i heard pee was used for making leather
21-09-13 03:38:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I heard the clubs in berin have poop, pee, and leather
21-09-13 03:39:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i never made it to berlin. meant to. thought i had more time
21-09-13 03:40:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I don't think there are any fisting clubs in this part of the US if that's what you were after
21-09-13 03:40:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: maybe there's still time to go back
21-09-13 03:40:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: what a conversation lol
21-09-13 03:41:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I guess we'll see on tuesday how bad things are going to get
21-09-13 03:41:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I think the CA gov sitch may be a bit of a bellweather
21-09-13 03:43:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: TFG is riding with the Moonies now, tho, so that's a bit surreal, and yet not totally surprising
21-09-13 03:44:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh, I'm sorry... is "Moonies" a hate speech?
21-09-13 04:00:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the polls seem to say the gov will keep his butt
21-09-13 04:00:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i mean, his seat
21-09-13 04:02:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that's what ly says
21-09-13 04:03:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so sad he's gone
21-09-13 04:03:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: sometimes i can still hear his voice
21-09-13 04:03:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: he's here
21-09-13 04:03:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: not like quix, but he's here
21-09-13 04:08:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: feckin quix is stalking us like we're japanese schoolgirls
21-09-13 04:13:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: how do you know
21-09-13 05:06:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: how do you not know?
21-09-13 05:24:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: then he takes pictures and puts us in the log site wallpaper background
21-09-13 05:41:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: *poops*
21-09-13 05:53:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: viriato... I'm betting tells do not work to the GV
21-09-13 06:03:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: https://www.thewhoresofyore.com/katersquos-journal/a-nasty-name-for-a-nasty-thing-a-history-of-cunt
21-09-13 06:03:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: uh.... NSfW or whatever
21-09-13 07:03:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cron (WileyMUD in I3)@Iberia: I3 Activity on 2021-09-12: 132 messages from 7 speakers.  Logs and MUD-list at http://wileymud.themud.org/~wiley/log/
21-09-13 09:36:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: no, tells still not working
21-09-13 09:36:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: all recent updates I did were no improvements for i3 network
21-09-13 12:55:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: fancy like applebees on a date night
21-09-13 12:59:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: girl we goin to cheesecake factory
21-09-13 12:59:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: get you some strawberry lemonade
21-09-13 13:15:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: pewp
21-09-13 14:51:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: good god that's right kalinash was always obsessing about pewp
21-09-13 16:13:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: good golly miss molly
21-09-13 16:24:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and long tall sally
21-09-13 16:25:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: long fap Sali
21-09-13 16:25:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFFgbc5Vcbw
21-09-13 16:25:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: brings me right back to that covert action huey flying over central american jungles
21-09-13 16:26:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: is that classified info
21-09-13 16:27:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the mini nuke wiped out all evidence anyway
21-09-13 16:28:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Carl Weathers' arms :(
21-09-13 16:28:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: shaka, when the arms fell :(
21-09-13 17:29:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: In Winter!
21-09-13 18:00:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: in the nights!
21-09-13 20:28:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: crat almost took jeff bridges
21-09-13 20:28:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: why crat hate the dude?
21-09-13 20:29:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i kinda like him actually
21-09-13 20:29:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh. carry on
21-09-13 20:30:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: fella says lymphoma chemo was nothing compared to fighting covid
21-09-13 20:31:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yowtch
21-09-13 20:39:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i'll tell you about yowtch
21-09-13 20:40:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: after beating the easiest boss on its easiest incarnation i decided to tackle its hardest incarnation
21-09-13 20:40:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh, so that's what distracted you from taking jeff bridges
21-09-13 20:40:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: nice
21-09-13 20:41:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i lost 17 strong megatheria, 2 daedons, and a yutyrannus in about 45 seconds. i wont try to explain the amount of work that went into leveling and equipping that war party
21-09-13 20:41:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so dont nobody try to tell me about their covid
21-09-13 20:47:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ploosk (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: are u playing ark Crat
21-09-13 20:47:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i am
21-09-13 20:47:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ploosk (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: hell yeah
21-09-13 20:47:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i miss playing video games
21-09-13 20:47:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: do u play ark polosk
21-09-13 20:47:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ploosk (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: I have done
21-09-13 20:47:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: how many hours do you have in ARK so far, crat?
21-09-13 20:47:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ploosk (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: it's fun
21-09-13 20:48:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: if you promise not to wreck my shit you can join my sereur
21-09-13 20:48:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: how many hours went into your dino disaster
21-09-13 20:48:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ploosk (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: MAYBE I WILL
21-09-13 20:48:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: well pretty much all of my ark experience went into getting being able to provision that raid
21-09-13 20:48:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so i dunno. whatever excessive time i spent on ark
21-09-13 20:49:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: my kid was like "its your own fault. you werent ready. you went too far."
21-09-13 20:49:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i mlike
21-09-13 20:49:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yowtch
21-09-13 20:50:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but it raises the very fair question
21-09-13 20:50:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: just how much fucking time does ark demand i sacrifice
21-09-13 20:50:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and when do i start getting paid for it
21-09-13 20:51:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you get paid for it?
21-09-13 20:52:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: not so far
21-09-13 21:17:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Morning, 5.21 AM. Crat opens the slits on his eyes and wakes from his makeshift nest of old grass and dead skin. He shambles from what was once his guestroom and is now what he considers his breeding den, to his porcelain regurgatorium. He felt better today. The treatment must be working, he thought to himself, as he waved his keratin infused thick fingers until he scraped his light switch on. The mirror showed his scaled, tattood face looking back at him. Pieces of his eyebrows were hanging down loosely and he flicked at them with a forked pink tongue. Yes, he smiled with shaven down fang teeth, yes, I am a raptor. I am a raptor now. As he sits his engorged legs on what was once the bathtub in order to defecate green, red and brown, the echoes of his now distant family still resonate through the house: "you've gone too far, dad"
21-09-13 21:17:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Ok.
21-09-13 21:25:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: kinda fits the story.
21-09-13 21:27:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: "it's farther than you think, dad!"
21-09-13 21:29:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: "you weren't ready, dad"
21-09-13 22:50:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: "it's longer than you think, Dad!"
21-09-14 00:41:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that was the reference
21-09-14 00:41:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: good catch
21-09-14 00:43:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i think it was josh that was sayin he hadnt read much stephen king
21-09-14 00:43:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and i recommended some of his anthologies, including that one
21-09-14 01:28:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: pewp
21-09-14 05:35:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: pwep
21-09-14 06:15:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ploop
21-09-14 06:15:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: That story was haunting
21-09-14 06:15:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but in real life, I think the kid would've just dropped dead immediately
21-09-14 10:06:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Tuesday already.
21-09-14 10:07:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Boy, has it been a _week_.
21-09-14 11:58:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: here too
21-09-14 11:58:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Tuesday
21-09-14 12:37:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: intense week here too
21-09-14 12:37:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: maybe things are accelerating everywhere
21-09-14 12:37:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and it is the end times
21-09-14 12:37:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but everyone just thinkgs things are intense for *them*
21-09-14 15:52:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: is it christmas yet
21-09-14 16:03:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: for the governor of california it is
21-09-14 16:04:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: tonight he gets to claim a mandate for hisleadership and policies
21-09-14 16:04:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: kind of an own-goal by the GOP
21-09-14 16:05:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: btw i think the recall threshold in CA might need some reconsideration
21-09-14 16:05:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: thats how yall got arnold schwartzenegger
21-09-14 16:42:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: recall process needs revamp
21-09-14 16:42:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it only takes 1 mill signatures to start the process
21-09-14 16:43:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and lethargy, either willful or ignorant, lessens voter turnout for this event unequally
21-09-14 16:43:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: One million out of a population of almost 40 million doesn't seem like enough for such an intrusive thing.
21-09-14 16:44:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: why does 'hispanic heritage month' start on the 15th?
21-09-14 16:45:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: there's a few latam countries that celebrate our independence around that date
21-09-14 16:45:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: is it like half a month or does it stretch into october?
21-09-14 16:46:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I think it goes mid-Oct
21-09-14 16:46:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i will look at the wiki
21-09-14 16:46:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yes
21-09-14 16:46:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: 15th to 15th
21-09-14 16:46:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: It started as a week, and then got explanded.
21-09-14 16:46:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: cool
21-09-14 18:56:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: comfortably cool
21-09-14 18:56:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh shit norm mcdonald :(
21-09-14 18:57:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: damn't Cratreaper, Norm McDonald wasn't even that old and he was still funny
21-09-14 18:58:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: bah =(
21-09-14 18:58:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i liked that guy a lot
21-09-14 18:58:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: me too
21-09-14 18:59:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: huh, cancer
21-09-14 18:59:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-MJy7w69EU
21-09-14 19:00:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: is that the moth joke
21-09-14 19:00:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it is
21-09-14 19:00:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that's what I would've led with
21-09-14 19:00:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: didn't even have to click it
21-09-14 21:26:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: hmmm, that's weird, my mud went offline without leaving a log note.  At least my uptime didn't get trashed again
21-09-14 21:26:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: 4 days and counting.  not that it matters much now that I'm running a daily backup on a weekly rotation
21-09-14 21:29:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: btw quix or anyone else on wileymud, how do I check previous pages of http://wileymud.themud.org/~wiley/log/ ?  I wanna check the pages for yesterday
21-09-14 21:34:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: click on the date at the top center of the page
21-09-14 21:51:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: ugh right thanks I forgot about that
21-09-14 21:51:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: adam: what's so funny?
21-09-14 21:53:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Adam (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: :P
21-09-14 22:05:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: a banana never changes its stripes
21-09-14 22:17:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that is true
21-09-14 22:18:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i wonder if prehistoric bananas had stripes
21-09-14 22:32:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and feathers
21-09-14 22:32:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: what do the banana fossils say
21-09-15 00:51:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: maybe in the infrared
21-09-15 01:51:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: that they're proud of giving us the slip
21-09-15 03:35:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the actress who played mantis looks like a white lady
21-09-15 03:36:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ok wait no, bad picture
21-09-15 04:54:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hi
21-09-15 04:54:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: did the good guys win
21-09-15 04:55:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: after $250 million spent, the only thing gained is angry people being angrier
21-09-15 04:56:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: maybe they shoul do it again  just to be sure
21-09-15 04:57:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hey, that bear is in the union. I'm sure it was paid well
21-09-15 04:57:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I just need $30 mil to put into a modest 2% return bond and I can retire
21-09-15 05:08:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: pewp
21-09-15 05:21:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: my wife just let me know where the 1 mill number comes from to start a recall here in CA. It's actually closer to 1.5 mill required, which represents approximately 12% of the total number of votes cast for him during the last gubernatorial election.
21-09-15 05:22:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: The state recall laws cover almost any elected official; so even though the state's population is 40 million, with about 22 million registered to vote, unless every single person landslide voted for an executive official the needed number for recall will always be under 2.62 million.
21-09-15 05:22:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I mean... in 2003 arnold was very pretty
21-09-15 05:24:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Another fact - since 1913, there have been 55 attempts to recall a governor in california, with only one being successful.
21-09-15 05:25:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: in 2003 arnold was very pretty
21-09-15 05:27:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: "The 2021 California recall is the fourth gubernatorial recall election to successfully make the ballot in American history"
21-09-15 05:30:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: davis was flat up shafted by the whole enron thing, tho
21-09-15 05:31:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: arnold has adorable little horseys now, tho
21-09-15 05:34:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: NSFW https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-58555694
21-09-15 12:52:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: good morning
21-09-15 15:50:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: hello
21-09-15 15:50:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Sup.
21-09-15 16:07:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hi
21-09-15 16:59:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: wow. now quix is adding geolocation to his stalking of i3
21-09-15 16:59:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: poor fella really really misses us
21-09-15 17:05:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: geo info in his logs?
21-09-15 18:30:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: the funny part is that his guess is as good as mine as to where my VM is.  quite honestly he needs to stalk my provider instead of me because at this point he knows as much as I do
21-09-15 18:53:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: why all this talk about quix being gone, is he banned from i3 or something?  One would think he could just post here himself if he wanted so what gives?
21-09-15 18:53:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: zaphod is secretly in love with quix
21-09-15 18:56:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: how is today not over yet
21-09-15 19:04:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: I'm serious, if quix is stalking i3 why doesn't he just post here himself?
21-09-15 19:04:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: he's on discord. go ask him
21-09-15 19:04:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Is Quix that guy people said is a fascist?
21-09-15 19:08:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: everybody is a fascist.
21-09-15 19:44:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: when everyone's a fascist no-one's a fascist
21-09-15 19:45:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Quix: If you're reading this from your logs after doing a search on Quix, then hi
21-09-15 19:54:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: quix is becoming a legend
21-09-15 19:55:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: nothing against him, but this is prolly the mechanism of creating legends
21-09-15 19:55:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: wow
21-09-15 19:55:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: another lesson from this sandbox world
21-09-15 20:10:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Be excellent to each other
21-09-15 20:41:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: can i be a legend next
21-09-15 20:41:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: too late
21-09-15 20:41:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: (you already are)
21-09-15 20:42:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: <3
21-09-15 20:42:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Shentino, how do you get to geo location in Quix's logs?
21-09-15 21:02:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: oh!! how cute
21-09-15 21:03:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: fluffylus and fluffystrad
21-09-15 21:04:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: enViriato
21-09-15 21:10:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: so much!
21-09-15 21:13:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: wow, what  week, thank Odin it's Friday
21-09-15 21:32:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: srsly
21-09-15 21:39:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Why are they ragging on this Quix dude?
21-09-15 21:40:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i think theyre jealous
21-09-15 22:04:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I like Quix and miss him - pls don't interpret my Quixness as ragging
21-09-15 22:04:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I do touch base with him on discord from time to time
21-09-15 22:04:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but it's here where he used to shine the most
21-09-15 22:05:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and he shone so very very brightly
21-09-15 22:09:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: he says he's unwelcome here because you libtards didn't like him calling you 'retard'
21-09-15 22:21:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I'll allow it if he doesn't actually type it
21-09-15 22:49:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: he's still on nazi discord if you miss him
21-09-16 00:15:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i dunno, they only have one literal nazi on there
21-09-16 00:15:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: does that really make it nazi discord
21-09-16 00:16:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: A dozen people sit around a dinner table with Hitler, laughing and having a jolly good time. How many Nazis are at the table?
21-09-16 00:16:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: 13
21-09-16 00:16:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: Nazi Discord
21-09-16 00:16:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: youre so divisive
21-09-16 00:17:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: Lines in the sand, man. Lines in the sand...
21-09-16 00:17:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: This far, no farther
21-09-16 00:18:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: well good luck advancing your crackpot liberal agenda with a decisive right wing majority on the court
21-09-16 01:36:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Huh
21-09-16 02:50:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: I return from the gym.  Bazinga!
21-09-16 04:06:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Botswana
21-09-16 12:27:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hmm
21-09-16 16:29:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hmm
21-09-16 16:31:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: neat
21-09-16 16:34:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: in the nights
21-09-16 16:34:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: reboot!
21-09-16 16:37:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hmm
21-09-16 16:46:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: yummy
21-09-16 17:17:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: TIME TO RUN!
21-09-16 17:30:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Run like the wind, Viri
21-09-16 17:31:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: rawr and stuffs
21-09-16 18:40:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Crat can translate dinospeak
21-09-16 18:52:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Run like hell
21-09-16 19:33:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: just because of that I've just watched last pink Floyd concert
21-09-16 19:34:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i havent played my dino game all day :(
21-09-16 19:36:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: has your dino army recovered?
21-09-16 19:36:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I'm not a modern guy, but their clothes in 2005 sounded they were sleeping on the couch and were woken up to play for a bunch of guys
21-09-16 19:36:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: im thinking of breeding a new dino army
21-09-16 19:36:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: this will take a long time
21-09-16 19:36:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: old clothes to use at home or doing some works in the garden
21-09-16 19:37:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I'm talking about other dynos, crat
21-09-16 19:37:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: wait for your turn
21-09-16 19:38:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: at the end they hug
21-09-16 19:38:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: looked like an "it burns!" of Gollum with elven rope
21-09-16 19:39:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: between Roger waters and David Gilmour
21-09-16 19:39:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ess brennt unsss
21-09-16 19:39:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: now let's make an analogy to i3
21-09-16 19:39:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: who's Roger waters and who's David Gilmour?
21-09-16 19:40:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: both talk alot, both blame the other
21-09-16 19:40:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: both are good at what they do
21-09-16 19:40:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: the new dino army to fight for the round heads ?
21-09-16 19:40:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: they can only be
21-09-16 19:40:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Viriato and Rudeato
21-09-16 19:41:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: like sini points out often
21-09-16 19:41:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I'm done
21-09-16 19:41:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: thank you very nice
21-09-16 19:42:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: muyto obrigato mr roboto
21-09-16 19:43:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: wtf. you are not trying to, but k, w and y doesn't belong to my aplphabet
21-09-16 19:43:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I just use them because I'm forced to
21-09-16 19:43:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: no ly in portugual
21-09-16 19:43:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: no ky in pourtogal
21-09-16 19:44:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: my ancestors just made 1/3 of the world talk my language, not everyone
21-09-16 19:44:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you sound pretty proud of your coutry's vile imperialism
21-09-16 19:45:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: and Ronaldo. and the military officer that planned and executed the covid vax plan
21-09-16 19:45:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: and Camoes
21-09-16 19:45:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: and lots of other epochs
21-09-16 19:46:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: one of the most interesting things is that our country is so small and did so much
21-09-16 19:46:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: like big bang
21-09-16 19:48:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I guess it's a matter of diameter
21-09-16 19:48:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: england france and spain were too busy fighting wars
21-09-16 19:49:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: of the balls
21-09-16 19:49:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: from the covid vaccine ?
21-09-16 20:58:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: https://news.sky.com/story/fossil-fuel-companies-are-suing-governments-across-the-world-for-more-than-18bn-12409573
21-09-16 21:04:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: is it Thursday yet
21-09-16 21:21:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: wonder if they have internet on Inspiration4
21-09-16 21:26:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: speaking of dinosaurs
21-09-16 21:26:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/824262783222022225/888173929921937538/cratisaur_skull_muscles.jpg
21-09-16 21:31:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: no ma mes
21-09-16 22:06:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: thank Odin it's friday
21-09-16 22:08:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: Clive Sinclair died
21-09-16 22:18:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: holy cats megatheria cows take 7+ hours to gestate
21-09-16 22:18:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: this fucking game has no respect for my time
21-09-17 00:00:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: I don't think quix is coming back here
21-09-17 05:33:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I think he is
21-09-17 05:38:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: isn't he here with us all the time, really?
21-09-17 06:09:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: isn't he here with us all the time, really?
21-09-17 06:09:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: mischan
21-09-17 06:12:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: floobo
21-09-17 06:32:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: one chan to rule them all, one chan to find them
21-09-17 06:34:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: this channel is not safe
21-09-17 06:34:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: we need a vax here too?
21-09-17 06:35:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: this channel is not secret
21-09-17 06:36:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: u should play single games
21-09-17 06:36:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: one player Imean
21-09-17 06:36:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: tinder is a single game
21-09-17 06:36:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: or divorced
21-09-17 06:36:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: well, I've heard that married too
21-09-17 06:36:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: are you ok, viriarude?
21-09-17 06:36:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: no. just started working
21-09-17 06:37:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: do we need to organize an extraction?
21-09-17 06:37:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: blink twice if yer in danger
21-09-17 06:38:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: isnt it too late for you to be around?
21-09-17 06:39:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: around wat?
21-09-17 06:40:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you figured I was asleep so you could just spout off like some wanker cunt?
21-09-17 06:40:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: computer connected to net connected  to dead souls dev connected to i3
21-09-17 06:40:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: oh! so you do the night shift
21-09-17 06:40:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: this is a modern world, my fren... what do shifts even mean?
21-09-17 06:41:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: is not a safe channel cause we maintain someone checking things during 24/7
21-09-17 06:41:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: mean we can ride at higher speeds on cars
21-09-17 06:41:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you think I should wait for the sun to tell me whether or not I should tell you yer a cunt?
21-09-17 06:41:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Taffyd (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: tv says donuts are high in fat
21-09-17 06:42:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I could rilly go for a donut
21-09-17 06:43:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: u could rilly zlow down, z
21-09-17 06:43:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: ask fat donut whos the cunt
21-09-17 06:43:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I'll assume whatever you were trine to say was lost in translation, virirudeto
21-09-17 06:44:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: donuts are delicious
21-09-17 06:45:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: u should make a special effort
21-09-17 06:45:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: to translate
21-09-17 06:45:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: cause im special
21-09-17 06:46:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I didn't say I didn't like you, you cunt
21-09-17 06:46:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I like cunt
21-09-17 06:46:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: https://www.thewhoresofyore.com/katersquos-journal/a-nasty-name-for-a-nasty-thing-a-history-of-cunt
21-09-17 06:47:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: viriarudeto: what are yer pronouns?
21-09-17 06:48:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: why?
21-09-17 06:48:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: you are asking too much of me
21-09-17 06:49:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I am almost naked
21-09-17 06:50:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I... guess that's a thing you could share with us...
21-09-17 06:52:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: maybe this is a cultural disconnect... are the portuguese generally uncomfortable with their gender or is this personal to you?
21-09-17 06:52:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: plz forgive me if this is a rude question
21-09-17 06:53:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: eek. I am probably not understandng what you are asking :)
21-09-17 06:53:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's fine. I'll wait. let me know when yer ready.
21-09-17 06:55:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: that's why you are still keeping watch in i3!
21-09-17 06:55:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: heck!
21-09-17 06:56:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: such right!
21-09-17 06:56:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I am watching you too, Z
21-09-17 06:56:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: for long
21-09-17 06:56:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: such long.
21-09-17 06:56:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: whoa it got jumpy!
21-09-17 06:56:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: forlong is a Tolkien char
21-09-17 06:56:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but why don't you answer the questions?
21-09-17 06:56:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: for (long i = 0; i < 1000000; i++)
21-09-17 06:56:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: woot
21-09-17 06:57:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: thats really a forlong
21-09-17 06:58:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: but it's not needed
21-09-17 06:58:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: you are not saving space
21-09-17 06:58:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: you ate fat donuts
21-09-17 06:58:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: you using too much space
21-09-17 07:00:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: space isn't a thing disconnected from time
21-09-17 07:00:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: y'all should say space-time
21-09-17 07:01:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: maybe y'all don't get that channel out in bumfuck portgual
21-09-17 07:02:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I kid, fren. y'all are way better at futbol than us
21-09-17 07:02:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: also, I'd like to go to there. I bet it's pretty.
21-09-17 07:02:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: there are things that's not good to be kidding about
21-09-17 07:03:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I mean... I wasn't kidding about how much of a cunt you are, viriarudeto
21-09-17 07:04:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's kinda cool how we all mud, to
21-09-17 07:04:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: *tho
21-09-17 07:04:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: love that for us
21-09-17 09:21:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: friday. sorta.  still dark outsid here.
21-09-17 09:21:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: 11:21 AM here
21-09-17 09:41:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: still friday and still morning here too
21-09-17 09:41:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: damn
21-09-17 13:01:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: tgif
21-09-17 14:09:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: heretic
21-09-17 14:15:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i think im getting dexter disease
21-09-17 14:15:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: im going to bed earlier than usual but still not getting rest
21-09-17 14:35:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: there's watches that you wear and allegedly track your REM schlep
21-09-17 14:36:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: maybe figure out if you're tossin turnin or somethin
21-09-17 14:37:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: good idea
21-09-17 16:07:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: you are Dyno addict and enter in stress mode when going to rest
21-09-17 16:08:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: buy a Dyno teddy and hug him tight
21-09-17 16:30:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that is really not the weorst idea
21-09-17 16:30:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: diplo dolly
21-09-17 16:32:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: luring diplo dollies to a life of vice
21-09-17 17:10:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I'm recording this because this could be the last thing I'll ever say. The city I once knew as home is teetering on the edge of radioactive oblivion. A 3000 degree baptism by nuclear fire. I'm not sorry, we had it coming. A surge of white hot atonement will be our wake up call. Hope for our future is now a stillborn dream. The bombs begin to fall and I'm rushing to meet my love.
21-09-17 17:10:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Please remember me.
21-09-17 17:10:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: There is
21-09-17 17:10:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: no more
21-09-17 17:16:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i witness you
21-09-17 17:54:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I started and kept whistling
21-09-17 20:46:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: dex
21-09-17 20:47:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i just heard no gasoline automobiles will be allowed in amsterdam starting 2030
21-09-17 20:47:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: let's move back
21-09-17 21:24:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: ig screw dex, con is where it's at.  int doesn't hurt though
21-09-17 23:01:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: apparently cha isn't important to you either
21-09-17 23:50:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: let me guess because I barged into a conversation without being invited
21-09-18 07:20:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cron (WileyMUD in I3)@Iberia: I3 Activity on 2021-09-17: 51 messages from 11 speakers.  Logs and MUD-list at http://wileymud.themud.org/~wiley/log/
21-09-18 15:12:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: dayum but it's muggy outside
21-09-18 15:13:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and all quiet on my western front.
21-09-18 15:13:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that's the side of my yard that faces DC.
21-09-18 15:16:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and locally, those three zebras are still on the loose.
21-09-18 15:22:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i guess there are worse problems to have
21-09-18 15:29:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: huh
21-09-18 15:29:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: there is a weird case where a boyfriend and girlfriend went on a cross country trip and only the boy returned
21-09-18 15:29:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and everyone is like what happened
21-09-18 15:29:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and he's just not saying
21-09-18 15:29:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and the cops cant arrest him cuz they dont have proof of a crime
21-09-18 15:30:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i guess if you have the discipline to just say absolutely nothing, you might be able to get away with murder
21-09-18 16:31:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: seems that she was a bit of a whack job herself.
21-09-18 16:32:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yeah the body cam footage is odd
21-09-18 16:32:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: guess we'll know when we find the bear pewp with tiny silver bells in it.
21-09-18 16:32:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i figure if he didnt straight up kill her, he probly got frustrated with her and just left her stranded somewhere
21-09-18 16:33:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: or he turned her into a frog.
21-09-18 16:33:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: speaking of which, my local county cops have a shite reputation...
21-09-18 16:33:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and one of them, living in my town, is running for city council
21-09-18 16:34:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: found him liking a faicebuk post on a closed group (somehow I''m in it) of a pro-cop group where he likes a post praising the J6 riotors and american heros.
21-09-18 16:35:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: maybe it was an ironic like
21-09-18 16:35:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: or he misread it.
21-09-18 16:35:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it was part of a post also praising cops.
21-09-18 16:35:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but cleverly written by a neighbor of mind - nutjob (IMHO) but devious in his writings.
21-09-18 16:39:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and natch, that county cop is a faicebuk friend of mine.
21-09-18 16:39:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i figure that the people who support j6 have been able to avoid seeing much of the footager
21-09-18 16:40:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: some of the footage is people calmly walking around inside the capitol, holding flags, looking triumphant
21-09-18 16:40:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and if that's all you see maybe i can almost see regarding those people as harmless
21-09-18 16:40:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and maybe thats what fox showed
21-09-18 16:41:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but the liberal zionist communist clinton media showed a lot of footage of police lines of skirmish being overwhelmed and people getting mauled
21-09-18 16:42:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and if you think those people are harmless i just don't know how to integrate this into a person of good faith
21-09-18 16:48:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: "Don't talk to the cops." is all around good advice for getting away with crimes, or just life in general.
21-09-18 17:16:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yeah, that's what a lot of my cop friends tell me.
21-09-18 17:59:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yer all cops here.
21-09-18 17:59:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I'm not talking, coppers
21-09-18 19:02:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE
21-09-18 20:23:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: clive sinclair :(
21-09-18 20:25:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: The creator of the Sinclair Super Computer and also the Hellraiser series?
21-09-18 20:27:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: let's just go with 'yes'
21-09-18 21:31:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: go more!
21-09-19 10:03:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: oh weekend
21-09-19 17:05:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: weekend appears to be nearly over
21-09-19 18:14:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: Cratylus! Team Red is on to us: https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2021/09/10/nolte-howard-stern-proves-democrats-want-unvaccinated-trump-voters-dead/
21-09-19 18:16:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: "Could it be...? Could it possibly be that the left has manipulated huge swathes of Trump voters into believing they are owning the left by not taking the life-saving Trump Vaccine?"
21-09-19 18:16:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: diabolical!
21-09-19 18:17:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: Could it be...? Could it possibly be that t'left has scurvy landlubberipulated huge swathes o' Trump voters into believin' they be ownin' t'left by not takin' t'life-savin' Trump Vaccine?", ye scurvy swine
21-09-19 18:17:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: it be talkin' like a pirate day
21-09-19 18:21:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: Yarr!
21-09-19 18:21:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: warez, torrent, copyright, riaa!
21-09-19 18:21:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: ...oh wait wrong pirate
21-09-19 20:54:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: larry tesler :(
21-09-19 21:56:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: where's ninja
21-09-19 21:57:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: and all u suckers that turned into discord and left these virtual worlds
21-09-19 22:12:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: life is change
21-09-20 10:24:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Mondayers, Assemble!
21-09-20 12:07:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: 6 hours for me already
21-09-20 12:07:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: time is galloping
21-09-20 12:30:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: fuck monday?
21-09-20 12:31:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: for real, i've had to wonder if the anti-vax shit was legit psy ops.
21-09-20 12:31:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I doubt it's 'the left'
21-09-20 12:34:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i mean, the russians have the skills to fan flames like this
21-09-20 12:35:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but i dunno if you can blame the whole thing on them
21-09-20 13:52:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: this really looks self inflicted
21-09-20 13:53:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: I never skip an opportunity to blame Putin for something, but they seem to have an even bigger antivax problem in Russia now
21-09-20 13:53:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: 2/3rd of the population is refusing the covid vaccine
21-09-20 16:03:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: odd
21-09-20 16:03:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: wonder what thats about
21-09-20 16:03:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: maybe they dont trust the russian vaccine
21-09-20 17:43:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: weird, my mud was lagged from th einternet for about 6 seconds a few times around 6:30 to 7:30 am today
21-09-20 18:13:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: cosmic rays
21-09-20 19:24:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: cosmic buttplugs
21-09-20 20:02:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i would not trust anything from russia honestl
21-09-20 20:02:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: russian buttplugs
21-09-20 20:14:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I mean... the russian roulette gun misfires 5-out-of-6 times
21-09-20 20:14:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: utter shite
21-09-20 20:18:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: only if you use a revolver
21-09-20 21:05:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Prophet six zero zero nine one
21-09-20 21:05:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: This is the flight number of our galactic sun
21-09-20 22:18:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: good evening
21-09-20 22:20:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Well, you say that, but I'm not so sure I buy it.
21-09-20 22:23:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: just give it a call
21-09-20 22:38:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: rudio
21-09-20 23:16:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: dex
21-09-20 23:17:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i think im going to cheat
21-09-20 23:17:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the only way to beat the big bad bosses is with massively bred dinos, but the amount of time required to do this is simply prohibitive
21-09-20 23:18:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i bred a couple of good stat megatheria and when the moms were prengan i cryofroze them so i could have time later to continue the gestation
21-09-20 23:18:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it killed the babys
21-09-20 23:19:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: this means i have to have 8 hours that fit my work schedule to birth just one fucken baby, plus the additional 1.5 days for the mom to recover in order to have the next one
21-09-20 23:19:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that is insane. i need to breed multiple generations to get to the necessary platoon of 17...that's like 10 months of breeding
21-09-21 00:45:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: hey
21-09-21 00:45:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: eventually you might like to breastfeed
21-09-21 00:46:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: and get a paternity leave
21-09-21 00:47:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: good news after all!
21-09-21 01:17:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: dayum...took me longer (reading the scrollback) that crat was game-talking, rather than rl-talking.
21-09-21 02:29:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: wtf are you talking about
21-09-21 02:30:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I'm sorry, when playing MajorMud, sometimes you has to use the 'say' command for the parser.
21-09-21 02:53:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: dex got me to play some dinosaur game, sali
21-09-21 02:53:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: what game is it ill play with you
21-09-21 02:53:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ark: survival evolved
21-09-21 02:53:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: its liek minecraft but with dinosaurs
21-09-21 02:54:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: do i need to host a server
21-09-21 02:54:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: join my server so you can help me beat bosses
21-09-21 02:54:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: well see if you like it first
21-09-21 02:54:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it is ludicrously hard
21-09-21 02:54:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's punishingly hard
21-09-21 03:01:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i buy'd it
21-09-21 03:03:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i like it but it's kind of an abusive relationship
21-09-21 03:03:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it does not respect your time
21-09-21 03:03:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and you will die many ignominious deaths, losing hard won loot
21-09-21 03:04:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: if you join my server i'll invite you to my clan so you can at least have somewhere safe to rest and weapons tools and armor
21-09-21 06:52:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: be careful out there in the real world!
21-09-21 12:14:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: so tired
21-09-21 12:34:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: seriously
21-09-21 14:10:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it never occurred to me i would sympathize with snoop dogg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9fumg7JAwg
21-09-21 15:08:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: https://uproxx.com/viral/texas-school-board-meeting-woman-yelling-about-anal-sex/
21-09-21 15:53:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: that lady is right, middle school should not be teaching kids to have anal sex
21-09-21 15:53:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: right, that's what church is for
21-09-21 15:54:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: still a virgin if you only have anal sex, so God won't be angry
21-09-21 15:56:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: kids should learn they will be fucked metaphorically, not literally
21-09-21 16:08:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i mean, it wasnt a full stack of 100
21-09-21 16:08:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: mischan
21-09-21 16:11:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: dutch hitler
21-09-21 16:13:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: bad news. looks like the snoopy dog dog video is fake. he wasnt ragequitting ark, he was ragequitting after getting owned in madden football
21-09-21 16:14:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: It's a jungle out there.
21-09-21 16:14:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh wow. so i was vaguely aware of some kind of controversy with brder patrol not being nice to immigrant and unflattering images of this
21-09-21 16:14:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i was like ok well whatever hope justice is done
21-09-21 16:14:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: then i saw it...theyre on horseback, whipping people
21-09-21 16:15:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: what the cunt
21-09-21 16:15:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: thou speaketh of wot, now?
21-09-21 16:15:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: how are whips standard issue
21-09-21 16:15:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: the photos were not a good look, it looked like a slave patrol cosplay
21-09-21 16:15:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: whipping haitians?
21-09-21 16:16:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: not saying I know a better way to do it, but I gasped when I saw the photos
21-09-21 16:16:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yelling at haitians that they should go back to mexico
21-09-21 16:16:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yes
21-09-21 16:16:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: telling them their country is shit
21-09-21 16:16:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i mean, ok i like the usa better but this is unprofessional behavior
21-09-21 16:17:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: maybe building a wall would prevent scenes like this
21-09-21 16:19:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so far, all I've seen are horse reins...still attached to the horse.
21-09-21 16:19:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ok that makes more sense
21-09-21 16:25:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ah, found one with a horseman waving a whip or crop...not a 20-lashes type thing, though.
21-09-21 16:26:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: holding it up, but it's hardly long enough to reach far.
21-09-21 16:26:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: there was a lasso shot i think
21-09-21 16:26:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: not seen that one yet.
21-09-21 16:26:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: im guessing that fox news will point out that some of those horsemen are hispanic and therefore any outrage about this is manufactured cancel culture
21-09-21 17:10:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: in a video I saw they were interviewing one of the immigrants and he was speaking dominican accented spanish
21-09-21 17:50:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that would make sense if youre a haitian
21-09-21 17:50:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you probly watch dominican tv and have dominican friends
21-09-21 17:50:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: course could also be a dominican posing as haitian and im not gonna judge that either
21-09-21 17:50:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: life can be fucking rough on hispaniola
21-09-21 17:52:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: one time me n my mom were in the airport to return to the mainland after a puerto rico trip, and some nice lady in a uniform kinda interrupted us in a hallway with a greeting and we responded and we continued on our way and i was like what was THAT about
21-09-21 17:52:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: "she wanted to see if we had dominican accents"
21-09-21 18:02:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I miss Dominican Republic
21-09-21 18:06:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: was the nice lady in uniform potentially dominican? Or was there something more sinister in her greeting?
21-09-21 18:06:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: (ie, "esos dos, se quieren hacer pasar por ciudadanos. Swarm! Swarm!"
21-09-21 18:16:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i think it was some kind of immigration official
21-09-21 18:17:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i dont think she would have been dominican but who can say
21-09-21 19:56:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: they can spot a dominican accent just by your response to a greeting ?
21-09-21 20:07:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: guess so. or at least that's my mom's opinion
21-09-21 20:08:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i think with miniam training i could probably spot a cuban accent from just a couple of words
21-09-21 20:08:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: minimal
21-09-21 20:08:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: dominican, dunno
21-09-21 20:08:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: maybe a little more effort
21-09-21 20:09:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but then its just a matter of getting more words from the subject
21-09-21 20:10:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: listening to Foo Fighters |\/|
21-09-21 20:39:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST
21-09-21 20:42:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vRlJrkxsqo
21-09-21 20:43:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: https://youtu.be/Gs069dndIYk
21-09-21 21:09:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: charles mills :(
21-09-21 21:11:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: F
21-09-21 21:42:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: turns out elvira's gay
21-09-21 21:47:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Gasp, etc.
21-09-21 21:47:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I mean, prolly you would be, too, if you'd gone on a date with elvlis
21-09-21 21:48:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: *elvis
21-09-21 21:48:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: do you think they did it while in costume
21-09-21 23:03:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: good evening
21-09-21 23:03:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, is it?
21-09-21 23:09:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: yes, I just fixed an obscure bug in kotaka
21-09-21 23:10:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Nice.
21-09-21 23:11:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: ...though in the process I also sniffed out obscure behavior in the underlying driver
21-09-21 23:11:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Are we doing the Simpsons meme with Homer in the cursed shoppe?
21-09-21 23:13:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: huh?
21-09-21 23:14:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: https://youtu.be/Krbl911ZPBA
21-09-21 23:36:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: turns out jojo siwa's gay
21-09-22 00:48:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: old news
21-09-22 00:48:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: one of the few things i know about jojo siwa
21-09-22 03:39:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so's Evira, Queen of the Night.
21-09-22 03:40:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: er, Mistress of the Dark.
21-09-22 03:40:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: gonna break Duuk's heart.
21-09-22 03:42:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: whoa. when did Duuk get a heart? modern medicine is truly a wonder
21-09-22 04:25:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: Duuk, duuk, duuk, duuk of earl, duuk, duuk, duuk of earl...
21-09-22 12:18:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i knew she was super extra fabulous
21-09-22 12:18:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i just thought she was like that
21-09-22 12:33:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: bleh
21-09-22 14:17:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hey guess who's gay? Jojo and Elvira
21-09-22 14:18:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: also if your favorite celebrity crush turns out they're gay, just pretend they're not
21-09-22 14:18:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you're already pretending they know who you are
21-09-22 14:48:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: jojo's bizarre adventures ?
21-09-22 15:20:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: jojo mama
21-09-22 16:15:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: mojo jojo
21-09-22 18:13:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: lord of the rings rise to war will be open in some hours
21-09-22 18:18:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: what is that
21-09-22 18:40:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: looks like it's a mobile game
21-09-22 18:57:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: yessss
21-09-22 18:57:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: it is
21-09-22 19:37:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1440644282759614478
21-09-22 20:13:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: crazy gonna crazy
21-09-22 20:17:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: https://myfox8.com/news/coronavirus/vaccines-in-your-salad-scientists-growing-medicine-filled-plants-to-replace-injections/
21-09-22 20:17:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it sounds crazy the way he says it
21-09-22 20:21:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: still sounds crazy in concept
21-09-22 20:22:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I think the mRNA chunks are too fragile to survive stomach acids and high temps
21-09-22 20:22:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but IANAS
21-09-22 20:23:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh the article says that. hmm
21-09-22 22:10:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: SALIUS
21-09-22 22:10:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I SUMMON THEE
21-09-22 22:48:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Saliusman Saliusman Saliusm...
21-09-22 22:48:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: No I can't do it
21-09-23 01:09:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Mr Mojo riiiiisinnnnnggg
21-09-23 01:23:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the first episode of star wars visions was pretty good
21-09-23 01:24:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: many references, and not just star wars. kurasawa, blade runner
21-09-23 02:11:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I nuno what that is
21-09-23 02:11:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: is that like Wandavisions but Starfartsvisions
21-09-23 03:24:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: dinsy+
21-09-23 03:24:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: shorts from various japanese animation studios
21-09-23 03:25:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: set in the sw universe but not involving the usual cast of characters
21-09-23 03:25:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you can watch em subbed or dubbed
21-09-23 03:29:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I did go into Nidsey+ after I asked the question, saw that there were a few out there
21-09-23 03:29:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I'll watch one soon
21-09-23 07:29:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cron (WileyMUD in I3)@Iberia: I3 Activity on 2021-09-22: 37 messages from 7 speakers.  Logs and MUD-list at http://wileymud.themud.org/~wiley/log/
21-09-23 12:41:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: diablo2 rerelease today apparently
21-09-23 12:41:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: is it good
21-09-23 12:52:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: no clue
21-09-23 12:52:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the cosby room
21-09-23 13:56:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: moving a product from mariadb to oracle
21-09-23 13:56:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: FUCK YOU
21-09-23 13:56:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: FUCK YOU SALIUS
21-09-23 13:56:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: :)
21-09-23 13:56:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: how hard can it be
21-09-23 13:56:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's not i'm just annoyed
21-09-23 13:56:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: because i've ranted about oracle
21-09-23 14:05:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: "I would never migrate to oracle"
21-09-23 14:05:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: "I would never greenfield in Oracle"
21-09-23 14:06:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but lo and behold
21-09-23 14:06:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: environmental circumstances require me to leave mariadb and mysql isn't in production yet
21-09-23 14:06:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oracle is the only available and appropriate product
21-09-23 14:09:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: Oracle is the greatestc
21-09-23 14:10:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: I'm proud of my Larry Ellison tattoo
21-09-23 14:21:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Harun (Nightfall in I3)@Iberia: oh no
21-09-23 14:21:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Harun (Nightfall in I3)@Iberia: a few of us just lost our push to migrate from mysql to mariadb lol
21-09-23 14:25:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: my objection to Oracle is that Larry Ellison came out of the closet as a Trump fan
21-09-23 14:25:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Harun (Nightfall in I3)@Iberia: hes a fucking lunatic asshole
21-09-23 14:26:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: if the product is good, I can look past a CEO being a nazi or a pedophile or a traitor, whatever, but a Trump supporter is abridge too far
21-09-23 14:26:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: that shows such a profound lack of judgement that I don't trust the product anymore either
21-09-23 14:27:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Harun (Nightfall in I3)@Iberia: last time I had a contract job it was maintaing a legacy PaaS, around 400 solaris servers, oracle jdk, db2. real peach to work with *g*
21-09-23 14:28:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Harun (Nightfall in I3)@Iberia: SiteMinder, F5...just terrible
21-09-23 14:28:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so many mistakes
21-09-23 14:29:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: "Ellison spoke to Trump about the use of the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19, according to the New York Times, and Oracle started to prepare to help with collecting data about the drug. Ellison offered to do the work for free, according to Forbes."
21-09-23 14:30:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: if this shit happened in some corrupt bullshit country like Russia, I'd laugh
21-09-23 14:30:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: but here it's just sad
21-09-23 14:30:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Harun (Nightfall in I3)@Iberia: remember when he went to cry to Trump about oracle cloud not getting that contract that went to Azure? haha what a joke
21-09-23 14:30:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Harun (Nightfall in I3)@Iberia: tho I think that got canceled since anyway
21-09-23 14:32:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: dude is a fucking weasel
21-09-23 14:32:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: he hung out with other weasels
21-09-23 14:32:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: like mark hurd rip
21-09-23 14:32:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: i hate to think what quid pro quo Satya Nadella gave for that
21-09-23 14:32:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: i didn't mean to call Russia a bullshit country, i meant the regime
21-09-23 16:27:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: russia never firguves
21-09-23 16:32:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Dexteryevski
21-09-23 16:33:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Cratyosha
21-09-23 16:33:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Ejosherina
21-09-23 16:34:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i3 Lyanatoly
21-09-23 16:34:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Siniy Siniyivitch Tradisky
21-09-23 16:34:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: da
21-09-23 16:35:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Dmawtri
21-09-23 16:36:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Zergey
21-09-23 17:21:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: poor paperpusher whos job it is to track all these apps moving datacenters smiled when i told him i was going to try to avoid having to push our app to next year.
21-09-23 17:22:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: almost makes it worth it
21-09-23 17:22:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: are you two dating now
21-09-23 17:22:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: no.
21-09-23 17:23:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: why the fuck?
21-09-23 17:23:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: So it has come to this.
21-09-23 17:23:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i'm just happy i cheered some dude whose job is even more meaningless than my own
21-09-23 17:23:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: there are two words that open the doors of our lives
21-09-23 17:23:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: push and pull
21-09-23 17:24:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: is this why fate has brought us together?
21-09-23 17:24:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
21-09-23 17:25:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: triangle butts
21-09-23 17:25:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I was very interested in checking the new lord of the rings game for android yesterday
21-09-23 17:25:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: they released the app like 12 hours before opening servers
21-09-23 17:25:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yeah you were all over it
21-09-23 17:26:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: the H hour was at 4 am here or something
21-09-23 17:26:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: so havent tried it yet
21-09-23 17:26:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: maybe today after dinner!
21-09-23 17:26:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I think you're the only person I know excited about a mobile game
21-09-23 17:26:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: yay!
21-09-23 17:26:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: you know 3 people only
21-09-23 17:26:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: so that's alot
21-09-23 17:26:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: WHAT?  DON'T YOU GUYS HAVE PHONES?
21-09-23 17:27:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: they use same names and soundtrack as the lotr movies
21-09-23 17:27:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Virigorn
21-09-23 17:27:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: and characters are like movie chars too
21-09-23 17:28:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: not sure how copyright and such works
21-09-23 17:28:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: YOU MEAN YOU'RE NOT AN EXPERT ON COPYRIGHT LAW?!
21-09-23 17:28:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, I bet they have purchased licenses or somethign to sue it
21-09-23 17:28:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: use it
21-09-23 17:28:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: no sorry :(
21-09-23 17:28:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: rude
21-09-23 17:28:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: but a great detail is that they are chinese team
21-09-23 17:29:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: though selling game in istore and astore
21-09-23 17:29:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: so noone ever will think they may be illiegal
21-09-23 17:29:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: gstore
21-09-23 17:29:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: iphone and android stores
21-09-23 17:29:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: they have a real website which would've been shut down at this point if it wasn't kosher
21-09-23 17:30:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: even if is hosted in china or russia? :)
21-09-23 17:30:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: just wondering...
21-09-23 17:30:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: it's just a matter of money to be able to purchase some kind of licence or authorization
21-09-23 17:30:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oui
21-09-23 17:31:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: just think it must be really expensive
21-09-23 17:31:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: if they pay for it, they also have paied for a market study to figure out mobile phones market will be more than enough to pay initial costs and give profit
21-09-23 17:32:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: so yeah, you should also be curious about a mobile game!
21-09-23 17:33:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Be that as it may, still may it be as it may be.
21-09-23 17:34:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: havent tried it yet... but it's free to play though I bet it's "pay to win"
21-09-23 17:35:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I agree, Joshuas tree
21-09-23 18:12:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: life is pay to win
21-09-23 18:26:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Harun (Nightfall in I3)@Iberia: lol
21-09-23 19:10:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: but u start in a free to play scheme
21-09-23 19:10:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: suckers
21-09-23 21:15:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: life is a game where someone else creates your character
21-09-23 21:46:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: huh
21-09-23 23:59:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and somebody else rolls the dies.
21-09-23 23:59:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: *dice
21-09-23 23:59:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: 8)
21-09-24 01:20:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: die
21-09-24 01:20:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I either hate you or I'm asking to play D&D
21-09-24 01:20:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: which is it?
21-09-24 01:39:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the
21-09-24 03:00:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: happy birthday, john coltrane
21-09-24 06:47:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: what about rosco p coltrane?
21-09-24 06:47:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: nobody remembers his birthday
21-09-24 15:51:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: nobody
21-09-24 15:55:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: somebody
21-09-24 15:56:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: a body
21-09-24 18:03:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: good morning
21-09-24 18:11:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: tired
21-09-24 20:11:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: roberto roena :(
21-09-24 21:31:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i don't know who that is
21-09-24 21:31:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: one of my friends died last night
21-09-24 21:32:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: pretty shitty
21-09-24 21:32:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: he went into the hospital a few weeks ago with some sort of stomach thing.  leaky ulcer?  they fixed him up but it got infected during surgery and killed him
21-09-24 21:57:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: im very sorry, josh
21-09-24 23:02:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: :(
21-09-25 00:26:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: 8(
21-09-25 00:46:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: sorry
21-09-25 01:22:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: poo poo pee pee
21-09-25 02:58:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: pewp
21-09-25 03:48:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yeah it's been a rough day
21-09-25 03:48:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: went on a police ride along tonight
21-09-25 03:48:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i bought it when i was drunk at a school charity auction
21-09-25 03:48:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: guy was nice.  my wife walks with his wife in the mornings sometimes.
21-09-25 03:48:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but really it was mostly dealing with mentally ill homeless people.
21-09-25 03:50:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: helped some poor couple who wrecked their car
21-09-25 04:01:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: heck of a day
21-09-25 04:02:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yeah
21-09-25 04:02:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: lots of mixed emotions
21-09-25 04:04:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ridealongs must feel like an escort mission level
21-09-25 04:04:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: "oh fuck i have to keep an idiot ai alive"
21-09-25 04:05:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i mean i'm not an idiot.
21-09-25 04:05:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i know that
21-09-25 04:05:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the gas station lady didn't charge me for my drink because i was with the cops.
21-09-25 04:05:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and once he saw you he probly liked having a big feller along
21-09-25 04:05:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: was it one cops or two
21-09-25 04:06:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: he was taller than me.
21-09-25 04:06:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: just one
21-09-25 04:06:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: not quick so thick
21-09-25 04:06:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: quite
21-09-25 04:06:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: right
21-09-25 04:06:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: whatever
21-09-25 04:07:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: we clearly have some deeply rooted societal issues to deal with.
21-09-25 04:08:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it was also interesting to observe the social phenomena from the other side
21-09-25 04:08:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: like when you pull into a parking lot and everybody just leaves.
21-09-25 04:09:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: or people slamming on their brakes when they see you
21-09-25 04:09:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: heh
21-09-25 04:10:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you must live in a nise neighborhood if they sent you along with only the one guy
21-09-25 04:11:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i mean we went to where the poors were.
21-09-25 04:11:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: spent a lot of time near the homeless areas.
21-09-25 04:11:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: of course you did.
21-09-25 04:11:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: being homeless is one of the most heinous crimes in our society today
21-09-25 04:12:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i think we can lay off the dickery to joshua for one day
21-09-25 04:12:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: wat.
21-09-25 04:12:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: josh isn't a cop
21-09-25 04:12:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: nobody got arrested this evening on all the things we went to.
21-09-25 04:14:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I don't think it's being much of a dick to note that statistically outcomes would be better overall if we kept cops away from the mentally ill homless people
21-09-25 04:15:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: also quix
21-09-25 04:15:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that guy should be nowhere near homeless people
21-09-25 04:16:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: then he should leave seattle
21-09-25 04:16:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: he did
21-09-25 04:16:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: he went to the suburb
21-09-25 04:16:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: kinda
21-09-25 04:16:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh huh
21-09-25 04:16:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: didnt know
21-09-25 04:16:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: he's like 10 mins outside seattle
21-09-25 04:17:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i mean i kinda liked seattle and the area he was in did have druggos nodding off but there were also normal people doing normal things
21-09-25 04:17:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i wouldnt want my kids walking home on druggo infested sidewalks but as a single grownup it's not that bad
21-09-25 04:18:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: those nodding off druggos would be better people for meeting your kids... I think you should reconsider
21-09-25 04:18:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: really dont think anyone would benefit from that
21-09-25 04:19:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that's 'cause yer a cop
21-09-25 04:22:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I bet it feels way further away to quixy 'cause on public transit it takes like an hour
21-09-25 04:22:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: we rode a train
21-09-25 04:22:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it was nice
21-09-25 04:23:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and quixy's feelings are obvi the most important thing
21-09-25 04:23:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I miss public transit in japan
21-09-25 04:24:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i dont normally like buses but the buses in boulder were nise
21-09-25 04:24:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the buses around fuji were next level
21-09-25 04:37:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: also cops have really shitty IT systems.
21-09-25 04:37:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the in car computer is pretty hilariously bad.
21-09-25 04:37:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i'm surprised there are not more accidents with them trying to operate these things
21-09-25 04:37:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: can you play doom on it
21-09-25 04:37:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: probably
21-09-25 04:37:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i mean the UX in their software packages is NOT GOOD
21-09-25 04:37:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: esp not good for mobile operation
21-09-25 04:38:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: did he always park before using it or did he use it on the fly
21-09-25 04:38:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: his car didn't have the automatic license plate scanners
21-09-25 04:39:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so at stop lights he'd be typing in plate numbers of cars that interested him
21-09-25 04:39:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: tedious
21-09-25 04:39:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yes
21-09-25 04:39:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and error prone
21-09-25 04:39:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yes
21-09-25 04:40:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i of course observed the url for the internet facing data search interface
21-09-25 04:40:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and noticed how all the cameras are connected
21-09-25 04:40:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: pretty sure i could just turn the police department off.
21-09-25 04:41:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's soft as fuck
21-09-25 04:41:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's like punching the police in cyberspace
21-09-25 04:41:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: apart from guns they don't have much
21-09-25 04:41:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but then who will tell the mentally ill homeless person that this gas station does not want them there anymore?
21-09-25 04:42:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: true
21-09-25 04:44:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that was prolly the "ride along" car he checked out for the evening... every other setup in the department is all minority report and shit
21-09-25 04:45:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i had several encounters with other officers at different stops
21-09-25 04:45:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: everybody seemed pretty legit.
21-09-25 04:45:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: looked like the police here is about half hispanic
21-09-25 04:45:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: like everything else.
21-09-25 04:46:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I mean... if you go back far enough everyone's about half hispanic... that's just science
21-09-25 04:47:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: anyway i think from my one outing that disbanding the cops is a fucking terrible idea.  adding additional social support staff is a good idea.
21-09-25 04:47:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so much of the workload is dealing with the homeless and mentally ill
21-09-25 04:47:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: It seems like it would be cheaper to invest there directly.
21-09-25 04:47:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: instead of spending your money on law enforcement.
21-09-25 04:48:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that would make sense
21-09-25 04:48:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: from looking at the budget for my town, I'd guess that they could stand to lose like 4 or 5 officers at least and shift that budget over to social support staff
21-09-25 04:48:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but I'm not an expert
21-09-25 04:48:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i could see on his screen what all the cops were doing
21-09-25 04:48:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and they were all working.
21-09-25 04:48:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: this is what people meant by defund the police
21-09-25 04:49:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and there was a queue of shit waiting
21-09-25 04:49:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but their branding was shitty
21-09-25 04:49:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: well
21-09-25 04:49:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: not all people
21-09-25 04:49:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i think you need to spend on the social support staff first
21-09-25 04:49:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and cut the police budget after
21-09-25 04:49:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's gonna take months or years to get that shit running right
21-09-25 04:49:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: there is a ligitamate argument for abolition
21-09-25 04:50:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you can have a legitimate argument that is nevertheless unserious
21-09-25 04:51:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: duuk used to argue for a private police force. his aarguments were legitimate but risible
21-09-25 04:51:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's not rilly nise to call people unserious, crisis
21-09-25 04:51:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: abolishing publicly funded and overseen police will just get you into duukland
21-09-25 04:51:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: also i can see how the cops can become hardened towards people
21-09-25 04:51:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: like the crazy people make me super sad
21-09-25 04:51:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and actual police gangs feuding over territory would not be an improvement to our current situation
21-09-25 04:52:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I mean...
21-09-25 04:52:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: if we could seriously work on the "overseen" part, that'd prolly help a lot
21-09-25 04:53:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: anyway i have to admit i have a lot more sympathy for both the police and their victims after this outing
21-09-25 04:53:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: how that boot taste
21-09-25 04:53:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: last ride along I went on was with a state trooper in my state... prolly really boring in comparision
21-09-25 04:54:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I got to play with lasers, tho
21-09-25 04:59:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i always quite fancied the idea of being a police officer.  it's just that the idea and the reality are wildly detached.
21-09-25 04:59:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i like the idea of protecting and serving my community
21-09-25 05:01:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I think the real disconnect we see in a lot of policing is that it's important to be A PART of the community you are protecting and serving
21-09-25 05:02:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so you're saying people from the problem communities need to become police officers?
21-09-25 05:02:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I'm saying the idea of "problem" communities is inherently flawed
21-09-25 05:03:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it is very obviously a different community of people than the one i live in.
21-09-25 05:03:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: my communities degens are like white meth heads.  their communities degens are homeless mentally ill black people.
21-09-25 05:04:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: how far from your home did you travel for this ride along?
21-09-25 05:04:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: 10 minutes?
21-09-25 05:09:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: how is the homeless situation where you live, zaphod?
21-09-25 05:10:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I guess another disconnect is what the heck we mean by "community"
21-09-25 05:10:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I mean...
21-09-25 05:10:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: It's been a long time since i have known a mentally ill street person by name.
21-09-25 05:10:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I brought my father in to live with me when he was homeless and then kicked him out again to be homeless when he stoled from me...
21-09-25 05:11:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: if that's what you mean
21-09-25 05:11:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ya know like the guy on the corner you pass when you're coming or going from work
21-09-25 05:11:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: he's always there on thursday, muttering at the wall
21-09-25 05:11:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you ever asked their name?
21-09-25 05:11:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: sometimes?
21-09-25 05:12:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i have not commuted in a long time
21-09-25 05:12:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so my interactions with homeless are way down
21-09-25 05:13:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the procedural part of law enforcement is interesting too
21-09-25 05:14:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: because there are so many rules about what they can and cannot do
21-09-25 05:14:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: they had a car flagge dbecause it belonged to the GF of a guy who had a federal narcotics warrant
21-09-25 05:14:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and it basically said to 'create your own PC' to investigate it.
21-09-25 05:14:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oof
21-09-25 05:15:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: like wait for them to fuck up a turn signal or whatever so you have cause for a stop
21-09-25 05:15:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: laws around traffic stops are their own things...
21-09-25 05:16:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i met a rookie who said he had just had to fill out a report on a crazy person and as soon as he had finished doing the report, the crazy person had gotten themselves hit by a car.
21-09-25 08:40:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: back!
21-09-25 12:51:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: front!
21-09-25 13:19:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: side!
21-09-25 16:11:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: seems my IntermudD's keepalive is turning into a useful barometer of connectivity lags to the internet in general
21-09-25 16:11:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: I just do hope that it's stopped accidentally spamming everyone else at least
21-09-25 16:22:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: did the crazy person who got hit by a car live
21-09-25 17:32:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i doubt it.
21-09-25 17:32:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i didn't interrogate deeper
21-09-25 17:33:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: this land is full of death
21-09-25 17:33:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yes
21-09-25 17:33:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i think most lands are
21-09-25 17:33:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i remember the shuffling hunchbacks in venice.
21-09-25 17:34:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i think i saw the shuffling humpbacks open for the chili peppers in 92
21-09-25 17:51:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i think i saw the chili peppers in 98
21-09-25 17:52:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: wonder if they were eligible for social secuirty yet
21-09-25 18:36:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: i guess it's working
21-09-25 18:38:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: what is working
21-09-25 18:38:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: my new linux box
21-09-25 18:39:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: cool
21-09-25 18:41:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: what the duck do you do to pacify those caves
21-09-25 18:41:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: gimme a sec to get soemwhere safe
21-09-25 18:41:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: I'm gonna give you about 2.5 hours because this is my one time window today for a run
21-09-25 18:42:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: basically i build a foundation then put a wall on it
21-09-25 18:42:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: a fence foundation might work too but i havent tried it that way
21-09-25 18:42:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: do you have your server set to pvp or pve ?
21-09-25 18:43:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so i fight my way in. once i get a certain distance in, i lay a foundation and put a wall on it. this prevents a lot of spawning.
21-09-25 18:43:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the downside is that it also prevents resources from respawmning
21-09-25 18:43:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: is the wall necessary? I know foundations keep vegetation from regrowing
21-09-25 18:43:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but if you just use caves for the artifacts that works ok
21-09-25 18:43:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i dunno, this is just how i do it. i clear paths through forests this same way
21-09-25 18:44:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it doesnt work 100% in every cave. the fucking lava cave is still full of critters
21-09-25 18:44:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but i havent seen a critter in the lower south cave in months
21-09-25 18:44:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: the higher south cave, I went all the way to the bottom and there was no artifact. I tried searchign in the water but that was of course a bad idea
21-09-25 18:45:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hmmmmmm
21-09-25 18:45:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: cost me both my baryonices
21-09-25 18:45:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh
21-09-25 18:45:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you just dont know where it is
21-09-25 18:45:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: if you tell me when you plan to log in i can show you
21-09-25 18:45:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: right now I plan to run 12 k to reach my weekly goal of 40
21-09-25 18:45:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: good luck
21-09-25 18:45:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh another thing
21-09-25 18:45:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: I'm in so much pain, growing old sucks so much
21-09-25 18:46:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: never ever ever go in the upper south cave at night
21-09-25 18:46:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: night is like 5 minutes on my server, you vcan tweak it
21-09-25 18:46:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: there are megasomethings in there that are extremely tough that wake up at night but sleep during the day
21-09-25 18:46:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ah
21-09-25 18:46:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: anyway i have it set to pvp
21-09-25 18:46:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: they dismount you, which kills both you and your bary
21-09-25 18:46:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yeah
21-09-25 18:47:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: anyway you CAN, supposedly, get the artifact by swimming
21-09-25 18:47:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but there is a little opening in the wall where the old ruins are
21-09-25 18:47:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you can grapple there and it is a shortcut to the artifact
21-09-25 18:47:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i never bothered trying to fight through the sarcos and piranhas to get to it, i just grapple
21-09-25 18:48:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: well I'll be mauled by a pack of hungry achatina
21-09-25 18:48:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it is totally unguarded if you grapple the hole
21-09-25 18:48:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: grapple the hole, got it
21-09-25 18:48:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: wait a minute
21-09-25 18:49:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it *is* hard to find and even if you know where it is it is hard to see
21-09-25 18:49:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so let me know if you'd like me to show you the hole to grapple
21-09-25 20:19:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: What's the dex bonus/penalty for grappling a hole?
21-09-25 20:49:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: Dex penalty seems to be a burning pain in the left shin
21-09-25 23:16:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: the right guy just answered
21-09-25 23:16:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: it's a matter of timing, oportunity
21-09-25 23:16:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: like pvp kills
21-09-26 02:06:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: finally someone else can have a crack at grimes
21-09-26 02:29:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i'm goin in for the kill
21-09-26 02:29:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh wait that was la roux
21-09-26 02:29:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: whatever all these wish washy 'artists' seem the same to me
21-09-26 14:25:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the richest men in the world are all divorced.
21-09-26 15:14:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: money is power and power is the greatest aphrodisiac
21-09-26 15:14:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i'm guessing they are not sufficiently compelled by the love they feel for their spouses to avoid fuckin golddiggers
21-09-26 16:43:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: Correction.  The richest men in the world *that had good prenup agreements* are all divorced.  The poor ones have the richest ex-wives ;)
21-09-26 16:58:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: wait, musk divorced already? though that one was still in progress
21-09-26 16:58:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: *thought
21-09-26 16:58:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: was he married ?
21-09-26 17:03:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: three times to two women
21-09-26 17:05:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: at the same time ?
21-09-26 19:38:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: u always put a whitespace before a question mark, Dex?
21-09-26 19:39:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: sounds like a programming vice
21-09-26 19:39:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: where u put your brackets? in new lines?
21-09-26 20:21:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: can you type a question mark upside down ?
21-09-26 20:24:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ?? wat ?
21-09-26 20:31:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: that's spanish
21-09-26 20:31:36: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: and it's an interesting concept
21-09-26 20:31:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: ?_?Did I enable this?
21-09-26 20:32:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: No, I didn't.
21-09-26 20:32:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: u figure out it's a question because of the final question mark
21-09-26 20:32:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: the romans didn't need diacritics and punctuation, so why should we
21-09-26 20:32:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Spanish warns u right at the start of the sentence
21-09-26 20:33:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: we are having a Crisis here
21-09-26 20:33:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: mayday mayday
21-09-26 20:34:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, the Romans used the Latin alphabet to write Latin, the language for which said alphabet was made.
21-09-26 20:34:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: they made the EU before Christ, they rock
21-09-26 20:34:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: don't say bad things about Romans
21-09-26 20:34:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Adding diacritics and other letters, letterlike symbols and symbols seems pretty reasonable an adaption of the alphabet to other languages than Latin.
21-09-26 20:35:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: they even accepted any religion the conquered countries had
21-09-26 20:36:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: they were millenniums ahead of us in plenty subjects
21-09-26 20:36:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: literally
21-09-26 20:37:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: They also drank huge amounts of lead and publicly tortured people to death, so maybe not?
21-09-26 20:38:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Oh, and all of the slavery.
21-09-26 20:39:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: but they weren't racist about the slave thing
21-09-26 20:40:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: they thought everyone who wasn't a roman patrician was equally inferior
21-09-26 20:42:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I mean, that doesn't really make the slavery okay, nor am I sure that's true.
21-09-26 20:43:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Pretty sure for example Italians were seen as inferior to roman patricians, yet superior to people from further reaches of the empire, especially people from what today makes up central Italy (the area around Rome, basically).
21-09-26 20:49:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: u still have all that
21-09-26 20:51:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I could buy freedom then at some point. today no
21-09-26 20:53:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: anyway, all that was part of the process. today we could do things better based on that past
21-09-26 21:44:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: yo viriato
21-09-26 21:44:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: *looks up*  Nobody expects...the Spanish Interrogation!
21-09-26 21:46:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I don't think that's how the meme works
21-09-26 21:50:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: lol. I got it, shentino
21-09-26 22:06:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: no question about it
21-09-26 23:07:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: who won the german elections ?
21-09-26 23:07:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: atm just paying attention to Portuguese ones
21-09-26 23:07:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: local ones
21-09-26 23:08:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: i've been really sloppy about following Portuguese politics in the last few years
21-09-26 23:09:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: I heard that Salazar died
21-09-26 23:31:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: "no question about it" was a pun btw :P
21-09-27 00:43:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the romans knew very well about lead poisoning
21-09-27 00:43:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: their water systems tended to mitigate the risks
21-09-27 01:04:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: it's still just a pipe dream
21-09-27 01:29:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: why didn't they just use PCV, the fools
21-09-27 01:29:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: PVC
21-09-27 01:30:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: they just had to go with the classic rustic look for lead pipes
21-09-27 01:47:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: they wanted to look authentic
21-09-27 05:54:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: bleha
21-09-27 06:51:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: poop
21-09-27 06:51:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: pewp
21-09-27 11:04:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ploop
21-09-27 11:17:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Monday ploop - best of the week!!!1!
21-09-27 11:25:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hooray
21-09-27 12:02:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: monday funday
21-09-27 13:46:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: Viriato: poop is a byproduct of digestion.  It may be useful to track it as an output of simulated digestion, especially if you have an ecology module or a farming module.
21-09-27 13:47:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: digestion is a byproduct of consumerism.  smash the system.
21-09-27 13:49:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: there is no ethical digestion
21-09-27 13:54:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: worms are truely evil
21-09-27 13:54:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: this cycle of sin and death we are forever trapped in
21-09-27 14:16:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: is it nobody doesnt like sara lee or nobody does it like sarah lee
21-09-27 14:20:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Lyanic (7thplane in I3)@Iberia: the latter
21-09-27 14:39:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: Cratylus: Tell that to the gold dragon that swallowed profion
21-09-27 14:42:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i need to see that movie
21-09-27 14:42:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: im told jeremy irons is sublime
21-09-27 15:45:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I've heard he's english
21-09-27 16:29:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: nobody's perfect
21-09-27 16:34:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: but some people could put forth a little bit more effort
21-09-27 16:34:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: me for example
21-09-27 16:35:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: if you dont have full stacks of black pearls you aint tryin
21-09-27 16:35:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: i think your server setting is bugged
21-09-27 16:35:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i joke. i am desperately low on black pearls
21-09-27 16:35:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so i tames a diplocaulus
21-09-27 16:35:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: a what
21-09-27 16:36:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: apparently they make trilobites spew black pearls
21-09-27 16:36:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: shovel head amphibian
21-09-27 16:36:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: huge damage bonus on trilos
21-09-27 16:36:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: apparently this is the easiest way to get black pearls
21-09-27 16:36:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i'll try it out tonight
21-09-27 17:10:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but you can test this once you have the game world
21-09-27 17:10:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: mischon
21-09-27 19:19:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: chonchon
21-09-27 19:20:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: mis mis mis
21-09-27 19:20:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so cops will punch license plates off random vehicles they encounter, mostly during stoplights?
21-09-27 19:20:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: cha cha cha
21-09-27 19:26:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: huh. r kelly guilty on all counts
21-09-27 19:26:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: only thing that surprises me is that this wasnt settled long ago
21-09-27 19:27:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: dude is literally on camera doing it
21-09-27 20:09:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: ass
21-09-27 22:14:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Finally got my hands on a DVD of "World War Z".
21-09-27 22:38:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: what's a DVD
21-09-28 00:38:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: like a thing from 20 years ago
21-09-28 00:53:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's like a vape but for your ears
21-09-28 00:53:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Rule 34
21-09-28 01:03:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/824262783222022225/892214794902450196/flat_earth_rule_34.jpg
21-09-28 01:17:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: It's like a cassette, but rounder
21-09-28 01:17:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: think data crystal, then backtrack a century.
21-09-28 01:18:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: watching He-Man and the masters of the universe season 1 with my youngest
21-09-28 01:18:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the original from the 80's?
21-09-28 01:18:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: it's so much worse than I remember, and I remembered it being crap
21-09-28 01:18:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: yes
21-09-28 01:18:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh dear
21-09-28 01:18:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: superman had data crystals in like 1978
21-09-28 02:30:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: his daddy gave them to him, and who knows where Jor got them from ?
21-09-28 07:00:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cron (WileyMUD in I3)@Iberia: I3 Activity on 2021-09-27: 53 messages from 9 speakers.  Logs and MUD-list at http://wileymud.themud.org/~wiley/log/
21-09-28 13:46:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: my wife finally quit her job
21-09-28 13:46:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: is that good or bad
21-09-28 13:46:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: out from under her toxic ass manipulative snake of a boss
21-09-28 13:47:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh man i've wanted her out for years, but the rule in my house is she only works because she wants to
21-09-28 13:47:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ok good
21-09-28 13:47:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: my income pays the bills
21-09-28 13:47:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: she is supposed to do something she wants to do
21-09-28 13:47:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so if her job is making her miserable that's no bueno for me
21-09-28 13:48:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that work situation has begun causing friction between us and her and the kid
21-09-28 13:49:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: like i understand that it's important to you as a human to pull your weight and do something and that's fine
21-09-28 13:49:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but not at the expense of your own happiness and self worth
21-09-28 16:58:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: all sounds good then
21-09-28 17:08:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: congrats congrats
21-09-28 17:14:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: im going to tell you all a secret
21-09-28 17:15:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ive been using microsoft teams for over a year and i still dont know how to use it
21-09-28 17:16:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: newb
21-09-28 17:16:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i think teams is a terrible application. welcome to my ted talk
21-09-28 17:16:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i will start by challenging you to find how to extract a text log of a chat
21-09-28 17:58:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I can only vouch for the fact that Google Meet can't do that either
21-09-28 18:02:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: holding people to what they say is part of effective working
21-09-28 18:02:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: somehow it doesnt seem like an accidental feature gap
21-09-28 18:02:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but im mystified what the intent is
21-09-28 18:06:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I agree that the log should be available after the fact, although I'm not in agreement with the number of promises made through text chat in a videoconference. However, any data captured in text is important. My frustration is exacerbated by the fact that you can record the video part of the meeting (at least on Google Meet) with one-button click, but the text chat is not part of that recording.
21-09-28 18:06:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: outrageous
21-09-28 18:07:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: inconceivable
21-09-28 18:07:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: unconscionable
21-09-28 18:08:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Google has enabled ChromeOS devices to work as stand-alone kiosks, and one of the apps that you can configure is Google Meet. So, in all our meeting rooms (and many of our customers) there are TVs that are running Google Meet, representing themselves as a "room", with the daily meetings that use that room listed and easily accessible via touch, click, or remote control.
21-09-28 18:08:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's really handy - you walk into a room because you've booked it on calendar, you click on start meeting, and it connects.
21-09-28 18:08:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: HOWEVER
21-09-28 18:09:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you can't fucking use the text chat. There's no way to type. So if 3 people are logging in through a typical computer and are furiously typing into the integrated chat, the people in the conventional meeting rooms can't see it or interact with it.
21-09-28 18:09:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: outrageous
21-09-28 18:10:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: as if this were some kind of third world country with intermittent power outages
21-09-28 18:10:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: this is ENTERPRISE BUSINESS GODDAMMIT
21-09-28 18:11:17: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: if Barbra Streisand is involved is it Yentlprise
21-09-28 18:11:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: thats a bit on the nose but i'll allow it
21-09-28 18:44:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ok so hear me out
21-09-28 18:44:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you remember when we were kids, our parents had a "hifi" stereo
21-09-28 18:45:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: in its own glass cabinet, record player on top, racks below with cassette, maybe cd, and equalizer
21-09-28 18:45:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh and radio of course
21-09-28 18:45:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and this is how we listened to music right
21-09-28 18:46:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: well i have vinyl, and i dont have a record player so i think i want an old style hifi with record player cassette player and cd player
21-09-28 18:46:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but i want it to broadcast to like, sonos. i already paid loads for all these speakers i want to use that
21-09-28 18:46:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that should be a thing
21-09-28 18:46:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: thank you for coming to my ted talk
21-09-28 19:44:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: teams and 'Google Chat' are the worst of the lot
21-09-28 19:44:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i mean i think amazon has a bullshit chat program that is dumpster grade too but nobody uses it.
21-09-28 20:01:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hi
21-09-28 20:03:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: there are such things, partially, and not crazy expensive either:
21-09-28 20:03:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: https://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Belt-Driven-Phonograph-Entertainment-Decoration/dp/B081DSDPMW
21-09-28 20:03:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I bet there's more, but dunno if it'll have the vinyl/cassette/CD triumvirate
21-09-28 20:04:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: here's a list:
21-09-28 20:04:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: https://spy.com/articles/gadgets/video-media/best-bluetooth-record-players-171341/
21-09-28 20:04:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: some look pretty damn fancy
21-09-28 23:30:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: Cisco had something really cool like that with Webex
21-09-29 00:48:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so, that thing with cover yer ears earpieces and a microphone...izzit a "headwet" or is there some other thing it's called these days?
21-09-29 00:49:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: sigh
21-09-29 00:49:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: *headset
21-09-29 03:50:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: these days people still call it a headset
21-09-29 07:42:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: phones in the nights
21-09-29 11:16:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: bluetoof vinyl
21-09-29 11:16:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: now ive seen it all
21-09-29 11:22:49: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cia_v4vxfE
21-09-29 11:23:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: prolly from 'before yer time'
21-09-29 11:52:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: you mean the before time? before covid ?
21-09-29 12:36:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i've found i have a very narrow comfort zone when it comes to ambient temperature of 75 degrees F
21-09-29 13:20:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: Good morning
21-09-29 14:48:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hello shentino
21-09-29 15:06:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: bloop
21-09-29 15:07:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: military personnel will be kicked out for not getting vaccinated
21-09-29 15:07:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: wont someone think of the troops
21-09-29 15:07:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: they will need jobs and support
21-09-29 15:07:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Texas to the rescue
21-09-29 15:10:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: such a stupid hill to die on
21-09-29 15:10:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: support our trups
21-09-29 15:27:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: wait did dune come out already
21-09-29 15:28:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ah ok oct 22
21-09-29 15:28:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I wanan see it
21-09-29 15:29:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yeah im up for it
21-09-29 15:29:20: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: then again i was excited for prometheus so
21-09-29 15:29:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I learned there was a well received Dune TV show a few years back
21-09-29 15:29:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: in fact it went all the way into doing Children of Dune
21-09-29 15:29:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and I think Professor X is in it
21-09-29 17:16:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: i'm not going very fast now, this time it's my left shin
21-09-29 17:16:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: mischan
21-09-29 17:36:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: misshin
21-09-29 17:59:16: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: miss u
21-09-29 17:59:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: dune out on oct 22? day 22 or year 22?
21-09-29 18:00:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: see you can be nice
21-09-29 18:00:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oct 2222
21-09-29 18:08:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: a palindrome?
21-09-29 18:09:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: a typo?
21-09-29 18:12:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oct 2222 is dec 1170
21-09-29 18:12:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so that's when it's coming out, December 1170
21-09-29 18:13:06: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i believe the julian calendar was in use then
21-09-29 18:13:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so you may miss the movie's opening day
21-09-29 18:19:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: romans again
21-09-29 18:19:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: you should play Iberia
21-09-29 18:19:47: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: lots of romans and "barbarians"
21-09-29 18:55:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: hey viriato should I ask you for connect info or look it up on wiley?
21-09-29 18:57:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: iberia is like siberia but with better food and weather
21-09-29 19:19:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: iberia.jdai.pt:5900
21-09-29 19:20:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: look in wiley? you  have like 38925734857348 places  to check it  :)
21-09-29 19:20:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I'm glad about the curiosity, dont understand me bad
21-09-29 19:21:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: just wondering where on wiley mud and site you can check it
21-09-29 19:21:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: when you can do it via i3 commands, all mud sites and mssp sites that have like 5 mirrors in the web
21-09-29 19:21:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: or you being ironic
21-09-29 19:22:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: like let me check Iberia coordinates on Quix new weapon of mass destruction
21-09-29 19:22:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: maybe he doesnt have a mud command
21-09-29 19:22:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: to do that
21-09-29 19:22:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: jeez
21-09-29 19:22:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you dont need to jump down the guys throat
21-09-29 19:33:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: bf2042 sini you in or out?
21-09-29 20:00:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I'm in
21-09-29 20:01:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: izzit out yet
21-09-29 20:02:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/23/americas/covid-vaccine-assault-nurse-canada-trnd
21-09-29 20:02:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i just wnat to know htf they dont have the guy on camera
21-09-29 20:25:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: ig Viriato: you might not know this but my own mud's codebase is 100 percent homebrew so the phrase "i3 commands" is a bit assumptive, like crat kinda said.
21-09-29 20:25:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: As for wiley I mean quix's wileymud page listing muds and their login screens
21-09-29 20:25:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: bluntly viriato I have to write my own i3 commands
21-09-29 20:26:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: I was not bein gironic though I was busy taking a nap irl when you responded
21-09-29 20:31:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: please excuse Viriato's rudeness
21-09-29 20:31:34: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: he makes up for it with, uh
21-09-29 20:31:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I'm sure there's something
21-09-29 20:56:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i forgot how much i hate interviewing people
21-09-29 20:57:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i dont want to hold peoples fates in me hands
21-09-29 20:57:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i just want to live peacefully among my dinosaurs
21-09-29 20:57:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: growing my crops
21-09-29 20:58:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i forgot how much i hate space travel
21-09-29 20:58:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: walking through my crop fields, feeling the grains in my hands, smelling the earth of my home
21-09-29 20:58:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: plus i have to shave to be on camera :(
21-09-29 20:58:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: sensing the eyes of alien overlords watching your 813th clone think they're alone in this world
21-09-29 20:59:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: cold hard pitiless eyes
21-09-29 21:25:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: maybe the fact that I keep bringing it up a lot is that potentially for me the most interesting aspect of nArk is the mystery of why you're there and who put you there
21-09-29 21:25:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I keep hearing that that is never explored, really
21-09-29 21:26:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so being a pawn in an alien zoo is what's left
21-09-29 21:26:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I shave every day
21-09-29 21:26:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: this is interesting
21-09-29 21:27:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: if you let your hair grow, it wont grow like 3 meters long
21-09-29 21:27:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: it will stop like at the length of your genes order to
21-09-29 21:27:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: the beard is the same
21-09-29 21:28:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I'm not sure that's true
21-09-29 21:28:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hair stops growing once a certain amount of time has passed, not once it reaches a certain length
21-09-29 21:28:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: but if you sum like all 1 milimiter of beard you shave every day, it will be a frogging earths round length in like 10 years of beard shaving
21-09-29 21:28:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: thats wrong
21-09-29 21:28:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Hairs are dead.
21-09-29 21:28:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: They don't know how long they are.
21-09-29 21:29:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: hair stops growing at a specific length depending of the guy\girl genes
21-09-29 21:29:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: What happens is that the hair grows for a certain amount of time, and then stops, in a cyclical fashion.
21-09-29 21:29:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: all of your hair passes through 3 phases, Rudiato: Anagen, Catagen, Telogen. Anagen is the only growth phase, and it lasts between 2 months and 6 years.
21-09-29 21:29:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: it may be longer or shorter
21-09-29 21:29:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: No, it stops growing at a specific time depending on the guy\girl genes
21-09-29 21:29:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: you saying like everyone can have 1 meter long hair?
21-09-29 21:30:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: by your theory, hair that's cut every day will never stop growing
21-09-29 21:30:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: havent I said the same thing?
21-09-29 21:30:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: yes
21-09-29 21:30:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: LIKE BEARD
21-09-29 21:30:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: no
21-09-29 21:30:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: incorrect
21-09-29 21:30:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: it will stop growing like at the eighties
21-09-29 21:30:48: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you've never seen hair fall out?
21-09-29 21:30:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: never
21-09-29 21:30:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: mine, never
21-09-29 21:31:03: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I think beard hairs have the same three-phase cycle?
21-09-29 21:31:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: all hair does
21-09-29 21:31:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: mine is special
21-09-29 21:31:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: MINE
21-09-29 21:31:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: You're not special.
21-09-29 21:31:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the 2nd phase, the catagen, is when growth stops and the follicle softens
21-09-29 21:31:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: anyway, you are breaking the theory
21-09-29 21:31:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I am
21-09-29 21:31:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Nor is your hair.
21-09-29 21:31:32: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the hair falls out at that point
21-09-29 21:31:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: you are breaking the theory and if you dont stop doing it, ill nuke you and burn i3
21-09-29 21:32:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Viriato, if you make your assumptions based on personal empirical evidence, then you probably also think the Earth is flat
21-09-29 21:32:38: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: gossip is a source of law
21-09-29 21:32:51: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the length of different hairs on different parts of your body is controlled mostly by the length of the anagen phase - temporal length
21-09-29 21:33:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: scalp hairs have some of the longest anagen phases of the body - 2-3 years - which is why we grow more hair there
21-09-29 21:33:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: all ok, peace. It does not influence "the theory". A beard can be of which length? like which is the biggest beard in length? or was, like in guiness book
21-09-29 21:34:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: damn. 17 feet. how much m/cm?
21-09-29 21:35:33: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: according to Seargeant Google, biggest beard is\was like 5.2 meters long
21-09-29 21:36:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: prolly, I can never have such long beard
21-09-29 21:36:26: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: but I shave everyday and I cut like 1 mm of beard
21-09-29 21:36:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: so in the last 14.3 years of shaving everyday, I've cut the 5.20 meters of the longest beard
21-09-29 21:37:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: assuming I shave a beard of 1 mm per day
21-09-29 21:37:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: but I shave my beard every day sice like 21 years ago
21-09-29 21:37:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: Your hair more likely grows at a rate like 0.3-0.5 mm/day, tho'.
21-09-29 21:38:27: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: so I have shaved almost 8m of beard at this time
21-09-29 21:39:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: thats cool. I cut my hair like each 15 days, so I prolly shaved more meters
21-09-29 21:39:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: prolly cut the hair more meters than beard shaved
21-09-29 21:39:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: so sini, PUT YOUR TRIPHASIC THEORY somewhere else
21-09-29 21:40:09: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: that's just in electricity
21-09-29 21:40:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: power supply
21-09-29 21:47:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Viri
21-09-29 21:47:59: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: sini sini sini sini sini sini sini
21-09-29 21:48:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: genes get to state how long your beard grows
21-09-29 21:48:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that we can agree on
21-09-29 21:48:15: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but it's not because they sense it's a certain length
21-09-29 21:48:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's because given a steady growth rate, the follicle stops growth after a certain time
21-09-29 21:48:44: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: no sense
21-09-29 21:48:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: that's ok for me
21-09-29 21:48:55: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ok good
21-09-29 21:49:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: also the Earth is not flat
21-09-29 21:49:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: also ok to me
21-09-29 21:49:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: was a portuguese that firstly  circum navigated the world
21-09-29 21:49:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: well, it could be a cilinder and he got lucky in the chosen path
21-09-29 21:49:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it was a portuguese that discovered the three phases of hair growth
21-09-29 21:51:14: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: sounds Crat is like +42399 years older than me but shaved like -4268374632 times, so trying to compare
21-09-29 21:51:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: BEARD LENGTH CUT
21-09-29 22:02:28: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: bye, froggers
21-09-29 22:53:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: arturito
21-09-29 22:53:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: forgot the pill!
21-09-29 22:54:56: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: don't want to be pregnant
21-09-29 23:42:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Viri sometimes doesn't wait to come down from the acid trip before jumping on here
21-09-30 00:02:02: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: what comes down must go up
21-09-30 00:02:05: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: wait, no
21-09-30 00:03:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: woohoo britney won
21-09-30 00:05:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: the fools, now the world will not be spared from her wrath
21-09-30 00:05:21: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so, dex
21-09-30 00:05:30: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: they have unleashed a force they do not understand
21-09-30 00:05:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i tried using a diplocaulus for hunting trilobites, as it is supposed to be the ULTIMATE BLACK PEARL MACHINE
21-09-30 00:06:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and sure, i now reliably get 1 black pearl per trilobite, sometimes 2
21-09-30 00:06:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but i am befuddled by the sheer number of black pearls needed to do any tek stuff. the eupterids dont yield much more
21-09-30 00:06:58: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i just cant see how people do advanced stuff without cheats
21-09-30 00:07:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: it took me months of whacking trilobites to have enough for a motor boat
21-09-30 00:07:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: wait, tek stuff? you beat the boss ?
21-09-30 00:08:18: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh yeah ages ago. just gamma level but still beat a boss
21-09-30 00:08:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but theres other stuff that takes black pearls too, like the gas mask and night vision
21-09-30 00:09:12: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and jeez louise it is so hard and tedious to get them
21-09-30 00:09:35: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: i think the idea is to have a whole tribe pooling their goodies
21-09-30 00:09:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh right
21-09-30 00:10:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ok yeah if you have half a dozen people grinding it adds up
21-09-30 00:12:04: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: #MintTheCoin
21-09-30 00:19:54: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: my next project is the swamp cave
21-09-30 00:19:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: mischon
21-09-30 00:40:42: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: miscave
21-09-30 01:11:50: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: mancave
21-09-30 01:17:13: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: manswamp
21-09-30 06:36:23: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: yar yar yar
21-09-30 06:36:37: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: is i3 good for anything besides wizards chitchatting?
21-09-30 06:39:57: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Zaphod (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: if you have to ask I can't explain it to you
21-09-30 10:08:52: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: shitchatting
21-09-30 10:30:19: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: It's mostly old people tying onions to their belts and shaking their fists at clouds.
21-09-30 10:50:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: https://youtu.be/XmoFgi2EB9c
21-09-30 11:39:46: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Shentino (Ulario in I3)@Iberia: pewpchat
21-09-30 12:27:07: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: pewps in the nights
21-09-30 12:30:11: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: got the invite for my buddies funeral. :/
21-09-30 12:30:22: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: when i die, they need to roll me outside and pour gasoline on me and be done with it.
21-09-30 12:30:39: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the viking boat would also be acceptable
21-09-30 12:30:41: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but get it on with
21-09-30 12:30:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i don't need to be rotting for 2 weeks
21-09-30 12:56:31: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i dont care too much what people do for my funeral but i require everyone to be drunk
21-09-30 12:56:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: if they cannot drink then they must be high af
21-09-30 12:57:00: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: if they cannot do either they can fuck off
21-09-30 15:00:53: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i dont understand frozen burritos
21-09-30 15:01:01: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: they are like 50 cents each
21-09-30 15:01:10: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: what can possibly be in them that they are so cheap
21-09-30 15:05:29: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hmm https://mealhack.com/a-detailed-discussion-and-comparative-analysis-of-sketchy-frozen-burritos
21-09-30 16:35:40: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: sorry about your buddy, Josh
21-09-30 20:44:08: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: thanks.
21-09-30 20:44:43: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: nothing like a reminder of your own mortality
21-09-30 20:50:25: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: memento mori
21-09-30 22:54:45: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: [email protected]: I memento viri
21-09-30 22:55:24: [gvgossip] grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Sinistrad (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: memento rudo
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