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25-08-16 14:16:12: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Weekend: The Pokemon Hitmonlee and Hitmonchan are based off of Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan.
25-08-16 17:51:13: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Q@Mongoose: https://www.amazon.com/Distraction-Bruce-Sterling/dp/1857988310
25-08-16 18:57:26: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Q@Mongoose: https://old.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1mqo92t/claudio_audio_feedback_for_claude_code/
25-08-16 19:01:11: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: what
25-08-16 20:57:39: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Q@Mongoose: I wanna control a robot with Claude what's small and programmable and doesn't suck? @Joshua
25-08-17 00:56:34: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ok
25-08-17 00:56:47: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i3 bridge should be fixed now
25-08-17 00:56:54: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: logpaij should get caught up
25-08-17 00:57:13: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: sorry for the downtime, life getting away from me caused this to get away from me
25-08-17 00:57:40: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: in other news, if any of you know anyone hiring for anything literally at all please send them my way
25-08-17 00:57:58: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i've been looking since may and if i don't find anything by end of august shits going to get real bad
25-08-17 00:59:24: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: at this point i'm not turning down any contract or otherwise work, nor any mid level positions.
25-08-17 00:59:31: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i need *something*
25-08-17 01:57:43: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: leibek@Grapevine: we all need something..
25-08-17 01:58:51: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: leibek@Grapevine: we are like bats working at night..
25-08-18 20:04:44: noob: away from all this violence, live inside each other's heads
25-08-19 02:03:42: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: F you, C and C++ and your asinine inability to share function pointers syntax!
25-08-19 11:00:10: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: It would take seven billion particles of fog to fill a teaspoon.
25-08-19 11:00:21: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Isn't 'fog' just water vapor?
25-08-19 19:38:24: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Ah reckon it's worth watching the new Snow White, since it's got Gal Gadot in it.
25-08-20 01:43:50: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: NINJA
25-08-20 01:43:50: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/k4F2V_BXMlI
25-08-20 01:43:59: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: also Quix, if you're out there my man
25-08-20 01:44:39: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: krem too.  all may lol
25-08-20 10:54:28: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Six years was how long it took to write War and Peace.
25-08-20 10:55:19: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: I can't wait to change my career path and outlook on life due to C++ now having `println`.
25-08-20 11:17:04: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Qwer (Archipelago in I3)@Iberia: My question is will programming languages change because of chat bots?
25-08-20 11:17:51: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Bam (ShadowMUD in I3)@Iberia: Could AI be used to create a new custom programming language?
25-08-20 11:19:34: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Qwer (Archipelago in I3)@Iberia: I thought they did that on a daily basis!
25-08-20 11:27:33: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yes
25-08-20 11:27:42: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: lots of things will change to accomodate AI
25-08-20 11:27:48: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: our systems are largely designed to be managed by humans
25-08-20 11:27:56: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: whereas they could be adjusted to be more machine driven.
25-08-20 11:28:37: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i saw some dickhead post on linkedin about how he created a new programmign language with AI
25-08-20 11:28:39: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: except he didn't
25-08-20 11:28:45: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: he created a spec sheet
25-08-20 11:29:03: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: if you can't run the code, you ain't created shit.
25-08-20 11:29:08: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Bam (ShadowMUD in I3)@Iberia: bit it's probably just a matter of time, right?
25-08-20 11:29:17: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: It takes a lot of coddling.
25-08-20 11:29:38: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Bam (ShadowMUD in I3)@Iberia: interesting
25-08-20 11:29:54: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's good at shitting out toy stuff
25-08-20 11:30:00: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but real work takes a lot of guidance.
25-08-20 11:30:43: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Bam (ShadowMUD in I3)@Iberia: AI sounds like a toddler right now
25-08-20 11:30:55: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I mean but its a toddler with the sum knowledge of humanity
25-08-20 11:31:43: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Qwer (Archipelago in I3)@Iberia: I've yet to see it do anything of complexity that didn't require the operator to know it beforehand.
25-08-20 11:31:58: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: lots of dumbasses have gotten real work out of it with no idea.
25-08-20 11:32:53: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Bam (ShadowMUD in I3)@Iberia: hmmm
25-08-20 11:35:21: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Qwer (Archipelago in I3)@Iberia: Yeah, if you have no idea at all then it's a great enabler.
25-08-20 11:37:08: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Qwer (Archipelago in I3)@Iberia: I'm wondering if it's possible to write "the complete art of computer programming" so that AIs can do better.
25-08-20 11:37:32: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's a great enabler even if you know what you are doing
25-08-20 11:37:35: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it saves me shitloads of time
25-08-20 11:37:40: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i have it rough things out for me a lot
25-08-20 11:37:46: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: then i go in and fix them
25-08-20 11:38:08: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's super useful for things that would take me like 60-90 minutes of mostly typing.
25-08-20 11:38:15: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: scripts, one offs, etc.
25-08-20 11:38:32: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Qwer (Archipelago in I3)@Iberia: Right - so it's in a typing-heavy situation.
25-08-20 11:47:23: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: stop talking and get to work!
25-08-20 12:27:36: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: fuck off, mate.
25-08-20 12:27:43: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: planning on resigning today
25-08-20 13:09:26: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: heh
25-08-20 13:09:34: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: jealousy is a bad thing
25-08-20 13:09:40: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you have no idea about how the rest of my shit is going.
25-08-20 13:09:52: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: like i have a second job, so i'll just be down to one.
25-08-20 13:09:58: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: not like i'm retiring or anything.
25-08-20 13:19:24: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: in less than a year of double jobbing, i've saved 10 years worth of savings.
25-08-20 13:19:28: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: our society is fucked.
25-08-20 13:20:31: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: if i had competently invested it the whole year, i'd have even more.
25-08-20 13:20:36: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: instead of it rotting in a savings account
25-08-20 13:21:31: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: all my investment accounts are monitored by the job i'm about to quit tho, and i didn't want them seeing me dump massive amounts of cash in new non-taxable accounts.
25-08-20 13:57:16: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: J is rude
25-08-20 13:58:43: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: do you have enough time to two jobs? both computer related?
25-08-20 13:59:06: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: have... had... not sure at this time of the day
25-08-20 14:03:12: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Both are engineering positions
25-08-20 14:03:18: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: one is pretty bullshit
25-08-20 14:03:40: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: basically a welfare job, but the RTO shit is making me sever.
25-08-20 14:04:01: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I would rather work the harder job which makes less bullshit demands on me and focus on building my own thing.
25-08-20 14:04:11: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: downside is i lose healthcare
25-08-20 14:04:24: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: at least until i've got my own ting big enough to pay it.
25-08-20 14:07:42: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Check out NASE for your healthcare and other services.
25-08-20 14:07:48: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: who is that?
25-08-20 14:08:28: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hmm
25-08-20 14:08:30: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: maybe i will
25-08-20 14:08:37: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i def need some help
25-08-20 14:08:41: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i've got osme potential partners lined up
25-08-20 14:09:09: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i need to figure out the SBA
25-08-20 14:09:18: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: these things will be easier when i'm not so overemployed
25-08-20 14:27:28: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: NASE is "National Association for the Self-Employeed".  It's an organization you join and get group rates.  I had it for when I had my own consulting company
25-08-20 14:30:23: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: By joining NASE, you can get group rates for healthcare.
25-08-20 14:39:04: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: what about my employees?
25-08-20 14:39:12: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: can i cover them too?
25-08-20 14:39:35: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i really need out of state insurance because texas is a fucking hellscape nightmare.
25-08-20 14:41:59: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Possibly, it's been over 15 years since I dealt with them so it's possible
25-08-20 14:42:29: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Reach out to them and see how it can help
25-08-20 15:10:20: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Looks like they are for business with 10 or less employees.
25-08-20 15:11:26: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: https://www.nase.org/about-us/about-the-nase
25-08-20 15:54:09: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: I'm having more and more will to have my own job too
25-08-20 19:41:02: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: do it
25-08-21 15:04:15: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: A Hershey's kiss contains 16 calories, which takes about five minutes of walking or four minutes of kissing to burn off.
25-08-21 15:04:29: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: What kind of kissing are people doing that it's almost the same as walking?
25-08-21 21:09:33: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: guess it depends on wot's being kissed.
25-08-21 21:09:58: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: dirty minds.  I was thinking of a moose.
25-08-22 11:49:59: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Facts of the Day: Eagle eyes are at least four times sharper than human eyes.
25-08-22 11:53:38: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Araska (Astaria in I3)@Iberia: I lied, it's not a revised fact of the day. but it is a fact, and it's neat.
25-08-22 11:59:31: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: which human? if I don't wear my glasses that's a really low bar
25-08-22 12:24:31: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: True, I'm in the same boat as you, Wodan.
25-08-23 14:01:33: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: There is no area in Japan that is more than 100 miles from the sea.
25-08-23 15:08:50: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: 70 miles for the UK it seems
25-08-25 11:25:16: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: When we are born our eyes are almost full size, but our nose and ears never stop growing.
25-08-25 11:52:48: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: this seems like a stale fact
25-08-25 12:01:09: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: I agree.
25-08-25 12:02:26: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: How difficult is it to ask that they come up with OMG facts that people who post on intermud chat lines for the past 3 years so that we don't have to rehash these tired out facts.
25-08-25 12:07:31: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i mean it's not easy to come up and maintain huge lists of random facts
25-08-25 12:07:36: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: or maybe it is.  i do not actually know
25-08-25 12:12:23: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: also if you're not burning more calories by kissing than walking, you're doing it wrong.
25-08-25 21:00:09: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Nice... got my LoRa module working with my setup and getting the range I was hoping for.  It's a LoRa UART module to make the programming easier, but works for now.
25-08-25 23:47:37: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: interesting - somebody makes LoRa HATS for RPi - got me tempted.
25-08-25 23:57:00: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i have not done any lora
25-08-25 23:57:01: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: https://www.youtube.com/live/dwC9sr6GEUk?si=qaNNfsKwGZlBVa9f
25-08-25 23:57:09: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i am always down to fuck with anything rf
25-08-25 23:59:26: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the biggest problem with ham radio is how damn boring it is
25-08-25 23:59:31: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you are capped on bandwidth
25-08-25 23:59:36: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: everybody is older than ninja
25-08-26 00:00:09: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i do enjoy contesting tho
25-08-26 00:00:16: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but it's rare that i will bother to set shit up for that
25-08-26 11:16:21: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day:  The hair dryer was the offspring of two unrelated inventions, the vacuum cleaner and the blender.
25-08-26 11:24:10: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: For my use-case, I only need to transfer bytes of data per second.  Each message is small, generally 32 bytes or less, and there isn't a significant amount of chatter (maybe 10 messages a second).
25-08-26 11:24:30: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: What I did need was something that had good range (100s of meters) and LoRa seemed to do it.
25-08-26 11:24:57: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: I have also found that there are dev boards with LoRa built in.  There are those with screens too, but I really don't need those
25-08-26 11:33:27: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I've been looking at doing a local MESH system and this LoRa addon seems like a good fit.
25-08-26 11:34:19: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: For your case, I'm blanking on the names now, but I stumbled on a system designed for home automation that is designed for many small messages, and has a subscribe publish format.
25-08-26 11:34:51: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: ZigBee?
25-08-26 11:35:47: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Not positive, but that sounds right.
25-08-26 11:36:00: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: This is the module I got: https://a.co/d/fWZ8fx0
25-08-26 11:36:48: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: With it being LoRa  UART interface, wiring and coding was easier than many of the other things I was playing with.
25-08-26 11:38:19: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Here's a dev board I found that has it all built in: https://heltec.org/project/wireless-stick-lite-v2/
25-08-26 11:38:39: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: I have some heltec boards with the OLED built in too, but haven't programmed that one yet
25-08-26 11:40:11: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: I never understood (or liked) how a single pin can be used in multiple functions.
25-08-26 12:52:34: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the screens show your AMMO LEVEL
25-08-26 12:52:39: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: lora is super slow
25-08-26 12:52:51: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: there is ZigBee and Z-Wave for home automation.  Both are also slow and localized.
25-08-26 12:53:27: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: define 'used for multiple functions'
25-08-26 12:53:50: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: they are muxed internally, so one pin might be muxed to the PWM generator and the i2c controller and the sd card.
25-08-26 12:53:54: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but you configure that through software.
25-08-26 13:20:06: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: When you look at the pinouts for any of these boards, you'll often see multiple functions associated with the pin.  For example, if I wanted to use pin 2 for something (it's usually assigned to PIN_LED), I now have a flashing LED on my board
25-08-26 13:21:56: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yeah so you end up not using pin2 because it's in use for the system led.
25-08-26 13:22:36: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's worse when you want to use the two functions that are bound to a pin at the same time, but they are only bound to the one pin :middle_finger:
25-08-26 13:22:47: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: aka you cant get fucked
25-08-26 13:22:53: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: pick a different soc
25-08-26 13:54:21: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: That's what I'm generally referring to.  PIN_LED was a simple visual example.
25-08-27 11:40:59: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: It is estimated that the whole surface of the earth could be covered with all the salt found in the ocean.
25-08-28 02:38:39: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Q@Mongoose: Life’s better with friends. Even if you’re a paper turkey.
25-08-28 15:37:48: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i used to think that the oceans were freshwater originally and only later got salty
25-08-28 15:58:33: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: due to cods
25-08-28 18:20:58: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: A raisin dropped in a glass of fresh champagne will bounce up and down continuously from the bottom of the glass to the top.
25-08-28 18:23:35: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The reason this happens is basically the bubbles attach to the raisin, lifting it up until the raisin hits the surface, in which the attached bubbles escape, leaving the raisin to sink again and collect more bubbles.
25-08-28 18:26:37: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: lots of surface area on a raisin
25-08-28 18:26:40: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: what about a mentos
25-08-28 18:29:58: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: I'm sure it's fine.  Drop a few in there.
25-08-28 19:10:26: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: I'm planning to not be around tomorrow so I'm giving you the OMG Fact for tomorrow (Friday, August 29)
25-08-28 19:10:47: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact for Friday, August 29: The loudest natural sound on Earth is of a volcano eruption.
25-08-28 19:11:19: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i believe that
25-08-28 19:11:28: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: wait, vs a nuclear explosion?
25-08-28 19:11:32: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh natural.
25-08-28 19:28:13: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: I was a bit surprised, until I thought about it more and can't really see something else making more noise.  A catastrophic earthquake?  I don't think it makes that much noise as it's ground shift vs a complete explosion.
25-08-28 23:24:48: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: from wot i've read, even the Tsar Bomba wasn't as loud as Krakatoa.  But a nuke also releases most energy as light and radiation, so they're not easy to compare.
25-08-29 13:19:50: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: boom boom
25-08-30 13:41:46: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Weekend: The cost of commercials during halftime at the Super Bowl could feed the entire world's refugee population of 62 million... twice.
25-08-30 13:48:16: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: two meals for the refugees?
25-08-30 13:48:20: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: not exactly a compelling argument.
25-08-30 13:48:53: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: are they really refugees if you don't let them escape?
25-08-31 13:44:02: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: :(
25-08-31 23:15:03: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i wonder if employment will ever happen
25-08-31 23:15:07: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: or if this is the end
25-09-01 16:45:16: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Put two straws in your mouth: one inside a drink and one outside it.  You won't be able to drink through either straw.
25-09-01 16:45:52: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Saeed@Mongoose: LOL
25-09-01 16:50:21: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Hellspawned (Darkness and Despair in I3)@Iberia: Are they paper or plastic straws?
25-09-02 11:39:25: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: A shadow (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yes.
25-09-02 12:07:41: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Before our world was covered in trees it was actually blanketed by giant mushrooms.  These species towered 7.3 meters high and up to 0.9 meters wide.  Scientists found ancient fossils of these gigantic structures and were able to determine that they were fungi.
25-09-03 12:06:17: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Theodor Seuss Geisel dropped out of Oxford before getting his PhD; he called himself Dr. Seuss as a nod to his father.
25-09-03 12:43:09: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: good guy dr seuss
25-09-03 12:43:21: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: bring back giant mushrooms
25-09-04 09:01:26: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ...ursda...
25-09-04 11:28:18: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: A lightning bolt strikes so quickly it could circle the globe eight times in just one second.
25-09-04 16:15:28: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hmm
25-09-04 16:15:39: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: isnt that just the speed of light
25-09-04 16:16:26: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: do we know that lightning actually operates at exactly that speed? i could have sworn i'd seen time lapse photography of a strike in progress, which seems impossible if it operated at the universal constant
25-09-04 16:18:14: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: "A lightning strike's visible flash travels at the speed of light, but the electrical discharge itself is much slower, around 270,000 mph (approximately 120,000 m/s), moving in rapid, stepping bursts. High-speed cameras, capturing thousands of frames per second, reveal the "stepped leader" approaching the ground and the bright "return stroke" surging upward through the formed plasma channel, a process too fast for the human eye to see."
25-09-04 16:18:23: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i meant high speed, not time lapse, but yeah
25-09-04 20:02:48: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: If the speed of electrical discharge is what they are measuring, then the OMG Fact is wrong, since earth is 40m meters circumference.  However, if it is the speed of light, then the ~8 times is accurate.
25-09-05 10:36:37: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so, US hit an alleged "drug boat" from Venezuela - but I just can NOT find a map showing where it happened.
25-09-05 10:36:50: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that seems way odd to me.
25-09-05 11:51:42: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Males of some praying mantis species cannot copulate while their head is attached.  The females initates sex by ripping the male's head off.
25-09-05 11:51:55: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Sucks to be born male in that species...
25-09-05 11:53:57: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: they all die virgins, and then their corpse is violated
25-09-05 11:56:55: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: :( angela rayner
25-09-05 11:57:01: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i really liked her
25-09-05 11:57:41: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ninjin: speaking of wild usa military operations: https://archive.ph/Bkt3i
25-09-05 12:35:19: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: CoffeeMUD is already connected to Grapevine. Great!
25-09-05 12:36:11: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: wonder if they're also connected to I3, which they are, maybe things enter in loop
25-09-05 12:36:45: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: like message from Grapevine network that gets relayed to I3 and vice versa and so on
25-09-05 12:36:52: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: will it explode?
25-09-05 12:37:18: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: if yes, in how many pieces?
25-09-05 14:03:41: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: craty, that's like a today report.
25-09-05 14:04:11: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: wonder how lokg the NYT had that info
25-09-05 14:05:49: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: sure can't make the "weather balloon" claim.
25-09-05 17:37:15: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you have to wonder how we'd react to a covert dprk force massacring american fishermen who stumbled into their area of operation on american soil
25-09-05 17:37:32: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i think we'd be displeased
25-09-05 18:33:31: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and how to we know this doesn't happen already?
25-09-06 13:49:07: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the us government couldnt keep secret a handful of burglars in the watergate hotel
25-09-06 13:49:38: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's giving them a loooooooooot of credit to assume they can hide covert strikes against the usa
25-09-06 13:50:04: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i mean it's possible
25-09-06 13:50:16: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but doesnt seem likely
25-09-06 13:58:43: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: There's a lot more space waste in our skies then stars and planets... including over 8,000 metric tons of waste.  Russia is the largest contributor of space waste, with 6,512 objects in orbit.  The U.S. follows close behind with 6,262 objects.
25-09-06 13:59:03: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: That was the OMG Fact of the Weekend
25-09-06 14:53:27: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: anyone want to adopt a sali
25-09-06 14:53:32: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: things are looking dire
25-09-07 04:46:20: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Saeed@Mongoose: test
25-09-07 04:55:59: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dan@Lotonia: Hello.
25-09-07 05:02:23: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Saeed@Mongoose: final test
25-09-07 05:09:32: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Tokugawa (Astaria in I3)@Iberia: If all else fails...kick it.
25-09-07 22:43:52: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: This American Nightmare
25-09-08 12:14:29: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the day (another pelican one): Most pelicans don't dive bomb their prey; they scoop it up while treading along on the water's surface.  To increase their chances of success, the birds occasionally form hunting parties, gathering in a U-shape and beating their wings on the water to corral fish into a tight cluster -- or drive them into the shallows.
25-09-09 16:40:44: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hello friends
25-09-09 16:40:51: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: is anyone hiring for anything IT related
25-09-09 16:40:57: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: or does anyone know anyone who is
25-09-09 16:41:03: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i am desperate at this point
25-09-09 17:10:09: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: I will be hiring full-stack devs soon, but in Brazil.
25-09-10 01:43:47: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Typewriter is the longest word that can be made using the letters on only one row of the keyboard.
25-09-10 02:15:53: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Marelle (Oraia in I3)@Iberia: what about the Dvorak layout though?
25-09-10 02:40:44: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Morris the Moose@Mongoose: um, "cry", "fry", "ply", or "pry" I think
25-09-10 02:41:40: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Marelle (Oraia in I3)@Iberia: but if you allow *any* row, I'd pick the middle row and do "destinations" -> 12 letters
25-09-10 12:20:29: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Phobatrivaphobia is a fear of trivia about phobias.
25-09-10 16:08:44: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: well they're in brazil, but can it be remote?
25-09-10 16:14:13: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: No, I'm hiring people in Brazil because hiring people in the US is too expensive (from a corp perspective)
25-09-10 16:20:39: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: what does a brazillian cost?
25-09-10 16:20:48: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the gravy train was nice while it lasted
25-09-10 16:20:55: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: more than an indian, less than an american.
25-09-10 16:21:06: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i figured the indians were expensive
25-09-10 16:21:13: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i seen AWS PS bill $400/hr for people in Chennai
25-09-10 16:21:37: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: $375 of that goes to the corporation.
25-09-10 16:22:28: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Magic 8-ball has made Larry righer than Leon Smuk.
25-09-10 16:22:29: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: And that's being kind to the individual.  Most of the indian resources I have make in the teen or twenty thoughts.
25-09-10 16:22:54: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: thousands, not thoughts
25-09-10 16:23:52: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's interesting to see the mass ig gross
25-09-10 16:24:04: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: we got mass unemployment
25-09-10 16:24:08: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hey fuck you for hiring foreigners mang
25-09-10 16:24:53: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: END H1B NOW
25-09-10 16:25:21: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: It's not my choice.  Corp is driving these decisions.  I've pulled hiring requests from India to Brazil because I'm not happy with what there is in India and dealing with the timezones is not great.
25-09-10 16:25:37: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: I prefer US based people, but this is the best I could get.
25-09-10 16:26:15: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: H1B Visas wouldn't change the outsourcing.  Tarriffs on services would, though.
25-09-10 16:26:21: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: brilliant
25-09-10 16:26:26: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: TARIFFS ON SERVICES
25-09-10 16:26:37: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: we need it to pay for the fucking welfare lines as the middle class is destroyed
25-09-10 16:26:48: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: No (ShadowMUD in I3)@Iberia: Actually Killing H1-B isn't needed. Just a simple change to decouple them from the employer and control to the individual.  They will demand better wages if they can work anywhere, which is what we want.
25-09-10 16:27:44: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I think the corporations want them trapped in a position they can fuck them around from
25-09-10 16:28:10: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: To Joshua's point, we have plenty of people in the US that can do the same job and will, very often, do a better job at similar rates.  This isn't like low-cost manual labor we see coming from the south.
25-09-10 16:28:35: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: somehow a fucking cloud cert makes you a 'Highly Skilled Resource' eligible for importation
25-09-10 16:28:48: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and these firms end up as nepo shit shows that import all their dumbest cousins
25-09-10 16:29:25: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: No (ShadowMUD in I3)@Iberia: If people on H1-B could work anywhere in the US, they'd demand the same rates as Americans. The problem would take care of itself, as the corporations would lose their cheap programmer and DBO labor.
25-09-10 16:31:35: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i dont think a cloud cert qualifies you as 'highly skilled'
25-09-10 16:31:41: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and the process is fucked
25-09-10 16:31:52: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you were supposed to show you couldn't fill the role
25-09-10 16:31:53: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: I can't think of any certs that make you highly skilled
25-09-10 16:31:55: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and that is total bullshit
25-09-10 16:32:07: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i'm jaded cuz the job i just quit was nepo hell
25-09-10 16:32:36: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: deport the nepos
25-09-10 16:32:36: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i can't get the girl with a masters degree because we have to hire the principals sister and she barely speaks english and can't do the job she was hired to do.
25-09-10 16:33:01: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but hey she needed a visa and now shes got it
25-09-10 16:33:13: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: deport the tariffs
25-09-10 16:33:14: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Do the nepos go along with the pedos?
25-09-10 16:33:31: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I mean the pedos are hella nepo too
25-09-10 16:33:44: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: honestly groucho was fine on his own, he didn't need nepo and pedo
25-09-10 16:33:47: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i do not believe these particular nepos are pedos but who knows
25-09-10 16:34:07: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: they are running a visa racket, not a sex trafficking racket.
25-09-10 16:42:46: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The joys of working for a global corporation is the constant monitoring of people costs and the number people saying how it's a great idea to hiring in these other countries because their cheaper.
25-09-10 16:43:02: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: While there is some value there, there's usually a cost they don't see
25-09-10 23:55:20: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Yes, it's under appearances
25-09-10 23:55:28: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: mischan
25-09-11 02:50:25: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that's amazing
25-09-11 02:50:28: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the thing you said
25-09-11 02:50:33: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: is the reason i lost my last 2 jobs
25-09-11 02:50:38: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i was too expensive
25-09-11 02:50:44: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and got replaced with offshore labor
25-09-11 02:50:47: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's nuts
25-09-11 02:50:54: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: they just shamelessly do it
25-09-11 02:51:06: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: like do i need to move to india to get a job?
25-09-11 02:51:24: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i'm sure in some roundabout way that's racist
25-09-11 02:51:25: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but fuck
25-09-11 11:22:29: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Women blink twice as often as men do
25-09-11 11:24:15: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: To corporate, it's all about the financials, especially publicly traded companies.  The only reason I can hire devs in the US is when the product we build & support is oriented for the US market and the client is located in the US.  If I'm not meeting those requirements, then it's a big fat no.
25-09-11 11:24:58: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: But we've been pretty good at keep those who are located in higher cost areas and not just laying them off for cheaper work.  A bird in the hand is worth more than two in the bush, as the saying goes.
25-09-11 11:57:40: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: wasnt me
25-09-11 12:56:59: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ...and I saw you not do it.
25-09-11 13:21:15: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yeah fuck offshore.
25-09-11 13:21:19: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and fuck publically traded companies
25-09-11 13:21:24: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i hope never to work for another one
25-09-11 13:23:28: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: with Salius being the next one off the ledge, it brings me back to thoughts of the hikkakamori haven
25-09-11 13:23:41: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i can buy a place in AR or TN with 6-10 cabins on it for less than 3 or 4 hundred grand.
25-09-11 13:24:07: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: wow thanks
25-09-11 13:24:08: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: with adequate marketing clout, we could probably run on donations.
25-09-11 13:24:16: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: bro no offense
25-09-11 13:24:21: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it could be any of us
25-09-11 13:24:32: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: its the market.
25-09-11 13:24:46: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: next it'll be or crat
25-09-11 13:25:07: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: be me or crat.
25-09-11 13:26:13: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: my linkedin is full of 'i have not found a job in 14 months' shit
25-09-11 13:27:02: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: charlie kirk got shot in the neck
25-09-11 13:27:04: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's a brave new world
25-09-11 13:27:16: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i learned when i was a little kid that expecting things to continue as they have been is dumb
25-09-11 13:27:38: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the dream of retirement my parents had died before they even retired.
25-09-11 13:28:07: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: we either join the capital class or find some way to eke out an existance on the bottom.  the middle class is going to go away.
25-09-11 13:29:04: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: there is not going to be anymore getting paid like a surgeon for doing basic ass devops.
25-09-11 13:32:21: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Qwer (Archipelago in I3)@Iberia: Both my kids are looking elsewhere for potential careers even though they're both handy with all things computer.
25-09-11 14:50:24: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I'm trying to switch to robotics.
25-09-11 14:50:34: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: which for some reason pays way less than shitty cloud shit
25-09-11 14:50:44: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so really i'm trying to start my own thing
25-09-11 14:50:52: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: because working for other people seems like pure insanity in this climate
25-09-11 14:50:57: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: or at least working for major enterprises.
25-09-11 17:09:25: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: The corpse stinks.
25-09-11 18:10:24: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: throw it away
25-09-11 22:20:34: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I'm not sure that surgeons really get paid what they used to get.
25-09-11 22:20:47: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Corporate america owns the medical industry now.
25-09-11 22:22:26: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Tokugawa (Astaria in I3)@Iberia: Hard to say no to selling your organization when someone offering you a nice big check.
25-09-11 23:35:07: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: corporate america owns just about everything and will soon own all personal property as well.  You'll just lease everything or get things through 'subscriptions'
25-09-12 11:35:12: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: did the suspected shooter look Turkish?
25-09-12 11:35:42: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: see, anyone can spread false rumouts.
25-09-12 11:35:47: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: *rumours
25-09-12 11:56:10: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Ice on the back of the neck can sometimes stop or slow a nosebleed.
25-09-12 18:04:05: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: turns out the call was coming from inside the house
25-09-12 18:04:14: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i got a lot of maga friends looking real silly right now
25-09-12 18:04:33: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: not that they can tell, of course
25-09-12 19:36:10: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: A shadow (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: The smell was coming from inside the house...
25-09-12 19:47:49: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: a second (out of three) interviews turned into a mid-interview job offer so i guess that's good
25-09-12 19:47:59: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i'll sigh in relief once i have a signed offer, but yay
25-09-13 07:24:55: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: sounds promising, when will you know?
25-09-13 12:12:35: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the weekend: Dark-roasted coffee has less caffeine than medium roast.  Roasting coffee beans burns off caffeine.
25-09-13 21:29:25: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viktor@Lotonia: Hello.
25-09-13 21:29:41: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dan@Lotonia: Hello.
25-09-13 21:30:05: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Saeed@Mongoose: Test.
25-09-13 21:46:29: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i like coffee
25-09-13 22:04:12: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: 5pm i want some more coffee
25-09-14 02:16:00: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: coffee is nice
25-09-14 05:52:29: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Naps are kewl.
25-09-14 13:39:01: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: that's been done, need to do grandma/grandkid
25-09-14 13:44:27: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: How about down-syndrome child?
25-09-14 14:25:21: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so ATT assigns routable IPv6 addresses
25-09-14 14:25:30: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but filters any inbound traffic by default
25-09-14 14:25:57: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: stateful style, so if i ping out, i get the replies, but i can't ping back in
25-09-14 14:26:13: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the idea of allowing unfiltered ipv6 into my network seems insane tho
25-09-14 14:26:34: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: a long long time ago all my home network hosts had routable ipv4 systems, but that was before the infinite worms
25-09-14 14:29:33: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i need to rtfm before i hook my pihole up with that.
25-09-14 14:29:37: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: v6
25-09-14 20:11:51: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Yay for the home team!
25-09-14 20:11:54: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Ravens.
25-09-15 12:09:21: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: The dot over the lowercase i and j is called a tittle.
25-09-15 12:51:43: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: tittle your i's and cross your t's.
25-09-15 13:11:03: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: colombian women's cycling team uniforms
25-09-15 13:11:08: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: mischan
25-09-15 16:06:56: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Hawt or Nawt?
25-09-15 19:06:42: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: anybody wanna do PyWeek 40?  https://pyweek.org/40
25-09-16 11:51:58: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: When traveling through water, sound moves around four times faster than when it travels through air.
25-09-16 16:59:01: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: OH MY GOD!
25-09-16 20:31:12: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Yup
25-09-17 10:17:15: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: This is cruel: Hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia is the fear of long words.
25-09-18 08:23:26: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ...ursda...
25-09-18 08:27:13: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Enigma (ShadowMUDii Dev in I3)@Iberia: ...ariaraasavi...
25-09-18 09:43:44: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: A program was launched in Belgium in 2001 to replace surgary drinks and soda in school lunches with beer.
25-09-18 19:45:51: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hmm
25-09-18 19:45:58: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: does it have alcohol?
25-09-19 12:33:07: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Ahoy landlubber!  Today be Talk Like a Pirate Day all across the seven seas.
25-09-19 12:54:12: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: I was wondering why someone was flying a pirate flag earlier... thanks for the reminder! Arr!
25-09-19 13:39:53: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: fly the black flag