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25-08-16 14:16:12: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Weekend: The Pokemon Hitmonlee and Hitmonchan are based off of Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan.
25-08-16 17:51:13: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Q@Mongoose: https://www.amazon.com/Distraction-Bruce-Sterling/dp/1857988310
25-08-16 18:57:26: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Q@Mongoose: https://old.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1mqo92t/claudio_audio_feedback_for_claude_code/
25-08-16 19:01:11: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: what
25-08-16 20:57:39: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Q@Mongoose: I wanna control a robot with Claude what's small and programmable and doesn't suck? @Joshua
25-08-17 00:56:34: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ok
25-08-17 00:56:47: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i3 bridge should be fixed now
25-08-17 00:56:54: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: logpaij should get caught up
25-08-17 00:57:13: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: sorry for the downtime, life getting away from me caused this to get away from me
25-08-17 00:57:40: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: in other news, if any of you know anyone hiring for anything literally at all please send them my way
25-08-17 00:57:58: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i've been looking since may and if i don't find anything by end of august shits going to get real bad
25-08-17 00:59:24: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: at this point i'm not turning down any contract or otherwise work, nor any mid level positions.
25-08-17 00:59:31: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i need *something*
25-08-17 01:57:43: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: leibek@Grapevine: we all need something..
25-08-17 01:58:51: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: leibek@Grapevine: we are like bats working at night..
25-08-18 20:04:44: noob: away from all this violence, live inside each other's heads
25-08-19 02:03:42: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: F you, C and C++ and your asinine inability to share function pointers syntax!
25-08-19 11:00:10: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: It would take seven billion particles of fog to fill a teaspoon.
25-08-19 11:00:21: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Isn't 'fog' just water vapor?
25-08-19 19:38:24: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Ah reckon it's worth watching the new Snow White, since it's got Gal Gadot in it.
25-08-20 01:43:50: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: NINJA
25-08-20 01:43:50: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/k4F2V_BXMlI
25-08-20 01:43:59: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: also Quix, if you're out there my man
25-08-20 01:44:39: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: krem too.  all may lol
25-08-20 10:54:28: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Six years was how long it took to write War and Peace.
25-08-20 10:55:19: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: I can't wait to change my career path and outlook on life due to C++ now having `println`.
25-08-20 11:17:04: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Qwer (Archipelago in I3)@Iberia: My question is will programming languages change because of chat bots?
25-08-20 11:17:51: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Bam (ShadowMUD in I3)@Iberia: Could AI be used to create a new custom programming language?
25-08-20 11:19:34: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Qwer (Archipelago in I3)@Iberia: I thought they did that on a daily basis!
25-08-20 11:27:33: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yes
25-08-20 11:27:42: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: lots of things will change to accomodate AI
25-08-20 11:27:48: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: our systems are largely designed to be managed by humans
25-08-20 11:27:56: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: whereas they could be adjusted to be more machine driven.
25-08-20 11:28:37: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i saw some dickhead post on linkedin about how he created a new programmign language with AI
25-08-20 11:28:39: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: except he didn't
25-08-20 11:28:45: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: he created a spec sheet
25-08-20 11:29:03: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: if you can't run the code, you ain't created shit.
25-08-20 11:29:08: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Bam (ShadowMUD in I3)@Iberia: bit it's probably just a matter of time, right?
25-08-20 11:29:17: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: It takes a lot of coddling.
25-08-20 11:29:38: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Bam (ShadowMUD in I3)@Iberia: interesting
25-08-20 11:29:54: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's good at shitting out toy stuff
25-08-20 11:30:00: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but real work takes a lot of guidance.
25-08-20 11:30:43: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Bam (ShadowMUD in I3)@Iberia: AI sounds like a toddler right now
25-08-20 11:30:55: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I mean but its a toddler with the sum knowledge of humanity
25-08-20 11:31:43: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Qwer (Archipelago in I3)@Iberia: I've yet to see it do anything of complexity that didn't require the operator to know it beforehand.
25-08-20 11:31:58: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: lots of dumbasses have gotten real work out of it with no idea.
25-08-20 11:32:53: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Bam (ShadowMUD in I3)@Iberia: hmmm
25-08-20 11:35:21: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Qwer (Archipelago in I3)@Iberia: Yeah, if you have no idea at all then it's a great enabler.
25-08-20 11:37:08: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Qwer (Archipelago in I3)@Iberia: I'm wondering if it's possible to write "the complete art of computer programming" so that AIs can do better.
25-08-20 11:37:32: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's a great enabler even if you know what you are doing
25-08-20 11:37:35: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it saves me shitloads of time
25-08-20 11:37:40: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i have it rough things out for me a lot
25-08-20 11:37:46: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: then i go in and fix them
25-08-20 11:38:08: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's super useful for things that would take me like 60-90 minutes of mostly typing.
25-08-20 11:38:15: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: scripts, one offs, etc.
25-08-20 11:38:32: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Qwer (Archipelago in I3)@Iberia: Right - so it's in a typing-heavy situation.
25-08-20 11:47:23: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: stop talking and get to work!
25-08-20 12:27:36: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: fuck off, mate.
25-08-20 12:27:43: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: planning on resigning today
25-08-20 13:09:26: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: heh
25-08-20 13:09:34: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: jealousy is a bad thing
25-08-20 13:09:40: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you have no idea about how the rest of my shit is going.
25-08-20 13:09:52: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: like i have a second job, so i'll just be down to one.
25-08-20 13:09:58: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: not like i'm retiring or anything.
25-08-20 13:19:24: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: in less than a year of double jobbing, i've saved 10 years worth of savings.
25-08-20 13:19:28: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: our society is fucked.
25-08-20 13:20:31: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: if i had competently invested it the whole year, i'd have even more.
25-08-20 13:20:36: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: instead of it rotting in a savings account
25-08-20 13:21:31: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: all my investment accounts are monitored by the job i'm about to quit tho, and i didn't want them seeing me dump massive amounts of cash in new non-taxable accounts.
25-08-20 13:57:16: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: J is rude
25-08-20 13:58:43: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: do you have enough time to two jobs? both computer related?
25-08-20 13:59:06: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: have... had... not sure at this time of the day
25-08-20 14:03:12: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Both are engineering positions
25-08-20 14:03:18: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: one is pretty bullshit
25-08-20 14:03:40: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: basically a welfare job, but the RTO shit is making me sever.
25-08-20 14:04:01: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I would rather work the harder job which makes less bullshit demands on me and focus on building my own thing.
25-08-20 14:04:11: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: downside is i lose healthcare
25-08-20 14:04:24: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: at least until i've got my own ting big enough to pay it.
25-08-20 14:07:42: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Check out NASE for your healthcare and other services.
25-08-20 14:07:48: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: who is that?
25-08-20 14:08:28: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hmm
25-08-20 14:08:30: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: maybe i will
25-08-20 14:08:37: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i def need some help
25-08-20 14:08:41: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i've got osme potential partners lined up
25-08-20 14:09:09: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i need to figure out the SBA
25-08-20 14:09:18: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: these things will be easier when i'm not so overemployed
25-08-20 14:27:28: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: NASE is "National Association for the Self-Employeed".  It's an organization you join and get group rates.  I had it for when I had my own consulting company
25-08-20 14:30:23: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: By joining NASE, you can get group rates for healthcare.
25-08-20 14:39:04: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: what about my employees?
25-08-20 14:39:12: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: can i cover them too?
25-08-20 14:39:35: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i really need out of state insurance because texas is a fucking hellscape nightmare.
25-08-20 14:41:59: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Possibly, it's been over 15 years since I dealt with them so it's possible
25-08-20 14:42:29: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Reach out to them and see how it can help
25-08-20 15:10:20: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Looks like they are for business with 10 or less employees.
25-08-20 15:11:26: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: https://www.nase.org/about-us/about-the-nase
25-08-20 15:54:09: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: I'm having more and more will to have my own job too
25-08-20 19:41:02: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: do it
25-08-21 15:04:15: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: A Hershey's kiss contains 16 calories, which takes about five minutes of walking or four minutes of kissing to burn off.
25-08-21 15:04:29: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: What kind of kissing are people doing that it's almost the same as walking?
25-08-21 21:09:33: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: guess it depends on wot's being kissed.
25-08-21 21:09:58: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: dirty minds.  I was thinking of a moose.
25-08-22 11:49:59: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Facts of the Day: Eagle eyes are at least four times sharper than human eyes.
25-08-22 11:53:38: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Araska (Astaria in I3)@Iberia: I lied, it's not a revised fact of the day. but it is a fact, and it's neat.
25-08-22 11:59:31: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: which human? if I don't wear my glasses that's a really low bar
25-08-22 12:24:31: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: True, I'm in the same boat as you, Wodan.
25-08-23 14:01:33: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: There is no area in Japan that is more than 100 miles from the sea.
25-08-23 15:08:50: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: 70 miles for the UK it seems
25-08-25 11:25:16: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: When we are born our eyes are almost full size, but our nose and ears never stop growing.
25-08-25 11:52:48: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: this seems like a stale fact
25-08-25 12:01:09: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: I agree.
25-08-25 12:02:26: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: How difficult is it to ask that they come up with OMG facts that people who post on intermud chat lines for the past 3 years so that we don't have to rehash these tired out facts.
25-08-25 12:07:31: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i mean it's not easy to come up and maintain huge lists of random facts
25-08-25 12:07:36: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: or maybe it is.  i do not actually know
25-08-25 12:12:23: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: also if you're not burning more calories by kissing than walking, you're doing it wrong.
25-08-25 21:00:09: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Nice... got my LoRa module working with my setup and getting the range I was hoping for.  It's a LoRa UART module to make the programming easier, but works for now.
25-08-25 23:47:37: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: interesting - somebody makes LoRa HATS for RPi - got me tempted.
25-08-25 23:57:00: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i have not done any lora
25-08-25 23:57:01: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: https://www.youtube.com/live/dwC9sr6GEUk?si=qaNNfsKwGZlBVa9f
25-08-25 23:57:09: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i am always down to fuck with anything rf
25-08-25 23:59:26: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the biggest problem with ham radio is how damn boring it is
25-08-25 23:59:31: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you are capped on bandwidth
25-08-25 23:59:36: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: everybody is older than ninja
25-08-26 00:00:09: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i do enjoy contesting tho
25-08-26 00:00:16: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but it's rare that i will bother to set shit up for that
25-08-26 11:16:21: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day:  The hair dryer was the offspring of two unrelated inventions, the vacuum cleaner and the blender.
25-08-26 11:24:10: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: For my use-case, I only need to transfer bytes of data per second.  Each message is small, generally 32 bytes or less, and there isn't a significant amount of chatter (maybe 10 messages a second).
25-08-26 11:24:30: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: What I did need was something that had good range (100s of meters) and LoRa seemed to do it.
25-08-26 11:24:57: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: I have also found that there are dev boards with LoRa built in.  There are those with screens too, but I really don't need those
25-08-26 11:33:27: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I've been looking at doing a local MESH system and this LoRa addon seems like a good fit.
25-08-26 11:34:19: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: For your case, I'm blanking on the names now, but I stumbled on a system designed for home automation that is designed for many small messages, and has a subscribe publish format.
25-08-26 11:34:51: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: ZigBee?
25-08-26 11:35:47: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Not positive, but that sounds right.
25-08-26 11:36:00: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: This is the module I got: https://a.co/d/fWZ8fx0
25-08-26 11:36:48: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: With it being LoRa  UART interface, wiring and coding was easier than many of the other things I was playing with.
25-08-26 11:38:19: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Here's a dev board I found that has it all built in: https://heltec.org/project/wireless-stick-lite-v2/
25-08-26 11:38:39: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: I have some heltec boards with the OLED built in too, but haven't programmed that one yet
25-08-26 11:40:11: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: I never understood (or liked) how a single pin can be used in multiple functions.
25-08-26 12:52:34: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the screens show your AMMO LEVEL
25-08-26 12:52:39: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: lora is super slow
25-08-26 12:52:51: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: there is ZigBee and Z-Wave for home automation.  Both are also slow and localized.
25-08-26 12:53:27: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: define 'used for multiple functions'
25-08-26 12:53:50: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: they are muxed internally, so one pin might be muxed to the PWM generator and the i2c controller and the sd card.
25-08-26 12:53:54: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but you configure that through software.
25-08-26 13:20:06: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: When you look at the pinouts for any of these boards, you'll often see multiple functions associated with the pin.  For example, if I wanted to use pin 2 for something (it's usually assigned to PIN_LED), I now have a flashing LED on my board
25-08-26 13:21:56: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yeah so you end up not using pin2 because it's in use for the system led.
25-08-26 13:22:36: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's worse when you want to use the two functions that are bound to a pin at the same time, but they are only bound to the one pin :middle_finger:
25-08-26 13:22:47: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: aka you cant get fucked
25-08-26 13:22:53: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: pick a different soc
25-08-26 13:54:21: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: That's what I'm generally referring to.  PIN_LED was a simple visual example.
25-08-27 11:40:59: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: It is estimated that the whole surface of the earth could be covered with all the salt found in the ocean.
25-08-28 02:38:39: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Q@Mongoose: Life’s better with friends. Even if you’re a paper turkey.
25-08-28 15:37:48: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i used to think that the oceans were freshwater originally and only later got salty
25-08-28 15:58:33: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: due to cods
25-08-28 18:20:58: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: A raisin dropped in a glass of fresh champagne will bounce up and down continuously from the bottom of the glass to the top.
25-08-28 18:23:35: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The reason this happens is basically the bubbles attach to the raisin, lifting it up until the raisin hits the surface, in which the attached bubbles escape, leaving the raisin to sink again and collect more bubbles.
25-08-28 18:26:37: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: lots of surface area on a raisin
25-08-28 18:26:40: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: what about a mentos
25-08-28 18:29:58: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: I'm sure it's fine.  Drop a few in there.
25-08-28 19:10:26: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: I'm planning to not be around tomorrow so I'm giving you the OMG Fact for tomorrow (Friday, August 29)
25-08-28 19:10:47: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact for Friday, August 29: The loudest natural sound on Earth is of a volcano eruption.
25-08-28 19:11:19: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i believe that
25-08-28 19:11:28: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: wait, vs a nuclear explosion?
25-08-28 19:11:32: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh natural.
25-08-28 19:28:13: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: I was a bit surprised, until I thought about it more and can't really see something else making more noise.  A catastrophic earthquake?  I don't think it makes that much noise as it's ground shift vs a complete explosion.
25-08-28 23:24:48: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: from wot i've read, even the Tsar Bomba wasn't as loud as Krakatoa.  But a nuke also releases most energy as light and radiation, so they're not easy to compare.
25-08-29 13:19:50: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: boom boom
25-08-30 13:41:46: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Weekend: The cost of commercials during halftime at the Super Bowl could feed the entire world's refugee population of 62 million... twice.
25-08-30 13:48:16: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: two meals for the refugees?
25-08-30 13:48:20: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: not exactly a compelling argument.
25-08-30 13:48:53: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: are they really refugees if you don't let them escape?
25-08-31 13:44:02: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: :(
25-08-31 23:15:03: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i wonder if employment will ever happen
25-08-31 23:15:07: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: or if this is the end
25-09-01 16:45:16: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Put two straws in your mouth: one inside a drink and one outside it.  You won't be able to drink through either straw.
25-09-01 16:45:52: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Saeed@Mongoose: LOL
25-09-01 16:50:21: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Hellspawned (Darkness and Despair in I3)@Iberia: Are they paper or plastic straws?
25-09-02 11:39:25: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: A shadow (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yes.
25-09-02 12:07:41: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Before our world was covered in trees it was actually blanketed by giant mushrooms.  These species towered 7.3 meters high and up to 0.9 meters wide.  Scientists found ancient fossils of these gigantic structures and were able to determine that they were fungi.
25-09-03 12:06:17: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Theodor Seuss Geisel dropped out of Oxford before getting his PhD; he called himself Dr. Seuss as a nod to his father.
25-09-03 12:43:09: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: good guy dr seuss
25-09-03 12:43:21: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: bring back giant mushrooms
25-09-04 09:01:26: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ...ursda...
25-09-04 11:28:18: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: A lightning bolt strikes so quickly it could circle the globe eight times in just one second.
25-09-04 16:15:28: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hmm
25-09-04 16:15:39: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: isnt that just the speed of light
25-09-04 16:16:26: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: do we know that lightning actually operates at exactly that speed? i could have sworn i'd seen time lapse photography of a strike in progress, which seems impossible if it operated at the universal constant
25-09-04 16:18:14: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: "A lightning strike's visible flash travels at the speed of light, but the electrical discharge itself is much slower, around 270,000 mph (approximately 120,000 m/s), moving in rapid, stepping bursts. High-speed cameras, capturing thousands of frames per second, reveal the "stepped leader" approaching the ground and the bright "return stroke" surging upward through the formed plasma channel, a process too fast for the human eye to see."
25-09-04 16:18:23: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i meant high speed, not time lapse, but yeah
25-09-04 20:02:48: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: If the speed of electrical discharge is what they are measuring, then the OMG Fact is wrong, since earth is 40m meters circumference.  However, if it is the speed of light, then the ~8 times is accurate.
25-09-05 10:36:37: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so, US hit an alleged "drug boat" from Venezuela - but I just can NOT find a map showing where it happened.
25-09-05 10:36:50: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that seems way odd to me.
25-09-05 11:51:42: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Males of some praying mantis species cannot copulate while their head is attached.  The females initates sex by ripping the male's head off.
25-09-05 11:51:55: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Sucks to be born male in that species...
25-09-05 11:53:57: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: they all die virgins, and then their corpse is violated
25-09-05 11:56:55: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: :( angela rayner
25-09-05 11:57:01: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i really liked her
25-09-05 11:57:41: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ninjin: speaking of wild usa military operations: https://archive.ph/Bkt3i
25-09-05 12:35:19: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: CoffeeMUD is already connected to Grapevine. Great!
25-09-05 12:36:11: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: wonder if they're also connected to I3, which they are, maybe things enter in loop
25-09-05 12:36:45: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: like message from Grapevine network that gets relayed to I3 and vice versa and so on
25-09-05 12:36:52: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: will it explode?
25-09-05 12:37:18: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: if yes, in how many pieces?
25-09-05 14:03:41: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: craty, that's like a today report.
25-09-05 14:04:11: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: wonder how lokg the NYT had that info
25-09-05 14:05:49: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: sure can't make the "weather balloon" claim.
25-09-05 17:37:15: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you have to wonder how we'd react to a covert dprk force massacring american fishermen who stumbled into their area of operation on american soil
25-09-05 17:37:32: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i think we'd be displeased
25-09-05 18:33:31: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and how to we know this doesn't happen already?
25-09-06 13:49:07: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the us government couldnt keep secret a handful of burglars in the watergate hotel
25-09-06 13:49:38: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's giving them a loooooooooot of credit to assume they can hide covert strikes against the usa
25-09-06 13:50:04: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i mean it's possible
25-09-06 13:50:16: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but doesnt seem likely
25-09-06 13:58:43: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: There's a lot more space waste in our skies then stars and planets... including over 8,000 metric tons of waste.  Russia is the largest contributor of space waste, with 6,512 objects in orbit.  The U.S. follows close behind with 6,262 objects.
25-09-06 13:59:03: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: That was the OMG Fact of the Weekend
25-09-06 14:53:27: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: anyone want to adopt a sali
25-09-06 14:53:32: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: things are looking dire
25-09-07 04:46:20: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Saeed@Mongoose: test
25-09-07 04:55:59: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dan@Lotonia: Hello.
25-09-07 05:02:23: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Saeed@Mongoose: final test
25-09-07 05:09:32: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Tokugawa (Astaria in I3)@Iberia: If all else fails...kick it.
25-09-07 22:43:52: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: This American Nightmare
25-09-08 12:14:29: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the day (another pelican one): Most pelicans don't dive bomb their prey; they scoop it up while treading along on the water's surface.  To increase their chances of success, the birds occasionally form hunting parties, gathering in a U-shape and beating their wings on the water to corral fish into a tight cluster -- or drive them into the shallows.
25-09-09 16:40:44: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hello friends
25-09-09 16:40:51: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: is anyone hiring for anything IT related
25-09-09 16:40:57: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: or does anyone know anyone who is
25-09-09 16:41:03: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i am desperate at this point
25-09-09 17:10:09: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: I will be hiring full-stack devs soon, but in Brazil.
25-09-10 01:43:47: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Typewriter is the longest word that can be made using the letters on only one row of the keyboard.
25-09-10 02:15:53: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Marelle (Oraia in I3)@Iberia: what about the Dvorak layout though?
25-09-10 02:40:44: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Morris the Moose@Mongoose: um, "cry", "fry", "ply", or "pry" I think
25-09-10 02:41:40: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Marelle (Oraia in I3)@Iberia: but if you allow *any* row, I'd pick the middle row and do "destinations" -> 12 letters
25-09-10 12:20:29: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Phobatrivaphobia is a fear of trivia about phobias.
25-09-10 16:08:44: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: well they're in brazil, but can it be remote?
25-09-10 16:14:13: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: No, I'm hiring people in Brazil because hiring people in the US is too expensive (from a corp perspective)
25-09-10 16:20:39: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: what does a brazillian cost?
25-09-10 16:20:48: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the gravy train was nice while it lasted
25-09-10 16:20:55: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: more than an indian, less than an american.
25-09-10 16:21:06: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i figured the indians were expensive
25-09-10 16:21:13: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i seen AWS PS bill $400/hr for people in Chennai
25-09-10 16:21:37: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: $375 of that goes to the corporation.
25-09-10 16:22:28: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Magic 8-ball has made Larry righer than Leon Smuk.
25-09-10 16:22:29: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: And that's being kind to the individual.  Most of the indian resources I have make in the teen or twenty thoughts.
25-09-10 16:22:54: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: thousands, not thoughts
25-09-10 16:23:52: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's interesting to see the mass ig gross
25-09-10 16:24:04: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: we got mass unemployment
25-09-10 16:24:08: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hey fuck you for hiring foreigners mang
25-09-10 16:24:53: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: END H1B NOW
25-09-10 16:25:21: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: It's not my choice.  Corp is driving these decisions.  I've pulled hiring requests from India to Brazil because I'm not happy with what there is in India and dealing with the timezones is not great.
25-09-10 16:25:37: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: I prefer US based people, but this is the best I could get.
25-09-10 16:26:15: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: H1B Visas wouldn't change the outsourcing.  Tarriffs on services would, though.
25-09-10 16:26:21: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: brilliant
25-09-10 16:26:26: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: TARIFFS ON SERVICES
25-09-10 16:26:37: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: we need it to pay for the fucking welfare lines as the middle class is destroyed
25-09-10 16:26:48: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: No (ShadowMUD in I3)@Iberia: Actually Killing H1-B isn't needed. Just a simple change to decouple them from the employer and control to the individual.  They will demand better wages if they can work anywhere, which is what we want.
25-09-10 16:27:44: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I think the corporations want them trapped in a position they can fuck them around from
25-09-10 16:28:10: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: To Joshua's point, we have plenty of people in the US that can do the same job and will, very often, do a better job at similar rates.  This isn't like low-cost manual labor we see coming from the south.
25-09-10 16:28:35: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: somehow a fucking cloud cert makes you a 'Highly Skilled Resource' eligible for importation
25-09-10 16:28:48: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and these firms end up as nepo shit shows that import all their dumbest cousins
25-09-10 16:29:25: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: No (ShadowMUD in I3)@Iberia: If people on H1-B could work anywhere in the US, they'd demand the same rates as Americans. The problem would take care of itself, as the corporations would lose their cheap programmer and DBO labor.
25-09-10 16:31:35: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i dont think a cloud cert qualifies you as 'highly skilled'
25-09-10 16:31:41: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and the process is fucked
25-09-10 16:31:52: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: you were supposed to show you couldn't fill the role
25-09-10 16:31:53: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: I can't think of any certs that make you highly skilled
25-09-10 16:31:55: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and that is total bullshit
25-09-10 16:32:07: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i'm jaded cuz the job i just quit was nepo hell
25-09-10 16:32:36: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: deport the nepos
25-09-10 16:32:36: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i can't get the girl with a masters degree because we have to hire the principals sister and she barely speaks english and can't do the job she was hired to do.
25-09-10 16:33:01: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but hey she needed a visa and now shes got it
25-09-10 16:33:13: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: deport the tariffs
25-09-10 16:33:14: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Do the nepos go along with the pedos?
25-09-10 16:33:31: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I mean the pedos are hella nepo too
25-09-10 16:33:44: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: honestly groucho was fine on his own, he didn't need nepo and pedo
25-09-10 16:33:47: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i do not believe these particular nepos are pedos but who knows
25-09-10 16:34:07: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: they are running a visa racket, not a sex trafficking racket.
25-09-10 16:42:46: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The joys of working for a global corporation is the constant monitoring of people costs and the number people saying how it's a great idea to hiring in these other countries because their cheaper.
25-09-10 16:43:02: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: While there is some value there, there's usually a cost they don't see
25-09-10 23:55:20: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Yes, it's under appearances
25-09-10 23:55:28: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: mischan
25-09-11 02:50:25: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: that's amazing
25-09-11 02:50:28: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the thing you said
25-09-11 02:50:33: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: is the reason i lost my last 2 jobs
25-09-11 02:50:38: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i was too expensive
25-09-11 02:50:44: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and got replaced with offshore labor
25-09-11 02:50:47: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's nuts
25-09-11 02:50:54: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: they just shamelessly do it
25-09-11 02:51:06: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: like do i need to move to india to get a job?
25-09-11 02:51:24: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i'm sure in some roundabout way that's racist
25-09-11 02:51:25: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but fuck
25-09-11 11:22:29: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Women blink twice as often as men do
25-09-11 11:24:15: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: To corporate, it's all about the financials, especially publicly traded companies.  The only reason I can hire devs in the US is when the product we build & support is oriented for the US market and the client is located in the US.  If I'm not meeting those requirements, then it's a big fat no.
25-09-11 11:24:58: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: But we've been pretty good at keep those who are located in higher cost areas and not just laying them off for cheaper work.  A bird in the hand is worth more than two in the bush, as the saying goes.
25-09-11 11:57:40: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: wasnt me
25-09-11 12:56:59: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ...and I saw you not do it.
25-09-11 13:21:15: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yeah fuck offshore.
25-09-11 13:21:19: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and fuck publically traded companies
25-09-11 13:21:24: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i hope never to work for another one
25-09-11 13:23:28: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: with Salius being the next one off the ledge, it brings me back to thoughts of the hikkakamori haven
25-09-11 13:23:41: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i can buy a place in AR or TN with 6-10 cabins on it for less than 3 or 4 hundred grand.
25-09-11 13:24:07: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: wow thanks
25-09-11 13:24:08: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: with adequate marketing clout, we could probably run on donations.
25-09-11 13:24:16: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: bro no offense
25-09-11 13:24:21: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it could be any of us
25-09-11 13:24:32: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: its the market.
25-09-11 13:24:46: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: next it'll be or crat
25-09-11 13:25:07: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: be me or crat.
25-09-11 13:26:13: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: my linkedin is full of 'i have not found a job in 14 months' shit
25-09-11 13:27:02: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: charlie kirk got shot in the neck
25-09-11 13:27:04: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's a brave new world
25-09-11 13:27:16: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i learned when i was a little kid that expecting things to continue as they have been is dumb
25-09-11 13:27:38: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the dream of retirement my parents had died before they even retired.
25-09-11 13:28:07: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: we either join the capital class or find some way to eke out an existance on the bottom.  the middle class is going to go away.
25-09-11 13:29:04: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: there is not going to be anymore getting paid like a surgeon for doing basic ass devops.
25-09-11 13:32:21: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Qwer (Archipelago in I3)@Iberia: Both my kids are looking elsewhere for potential careers even though they're both handy with all things computer.
25-09-11 14:50:24: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I'm trying to switch to robotics.
25-09-11 14:50:34: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: which for some reason pays way less than shitty cloud shit
25-09-11 14:50:44: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so really i'm trying to start my own thing
25-09-11 14:50:52: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: because working for other people seems like pure insanity in this climate
25-09-11 14:50:57: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: or at least working for major enterprises.
25-09-11 17:09:25: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: The corpse stinks.
25-09-11 18:10:24: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: throw it away
25-09-11 22:20:34: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I'm not sure that surgeons really get paid what they used to get.
25-09-11 22:20:47: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Corporate america owns the medical industry now.
25-09-11 22:22:26: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Tokugawa (Astaria in I3)@Iberia: Hard to say no to selling your organization when someone offering you a nice big check.
25-09-11 23:35:07: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: corporate america owns just about everything and will soon own all personal property as well.  You'll just lease everything or get things through 'subscriptions'
25-09-12 11:35:12: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: did the suspected shooter look Turkish?
25-09-12 11:35:42: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: see, anyone can spread false rumouts.
25-09-12 11:35:47: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: *rumours
25-09-12 11:56:10: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Ice on the back of the neck can sometimes stop or slow a nosebleed.
25-09-12 18:04:05: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: turns out the call was coming from inside the house
25-09-12 18:04:14: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i got a lot of maga friends looking real silly right now
25-09-12 18:04:33: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: not that they can tell, of course
25-09-12 19:36:10: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: A shadow (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: The smell was coming from inside the house...
25-09-12 19:47:49: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: a second (out of three) interviews turned into a mid-interview job offer so i guess that's good
25-09-12 19:47:59: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Salius (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i'll sigh in relief once i have a signed offer, but yay
25-09-13 07:24:55: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: sounds promising, when will you know?
25-09-13 12:12:35: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the weekend: Dark-roasted coffee has less caffeine than medium roast.  Roasting coffee beans burns off caffeine.
25-09-13 21:29:25: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viktor@Lotonia: Hello.
25-09-13 21:29:41: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dan@Lotonia: Hello.
25-09-13 21:30:05: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Saeed@Mongoose: Test.
25-09-13 21:46:29: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i like coffee
25-09-13 22:04:12: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: 5pm i want some more coffee
25-09-14 02:16:00: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: coffee is nice
25-09-14 05:52:29: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Naps are kewl.
25-09-14 13:39:01: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: that's been done, need to do grandma/grandkid
25-09-14 13:44:27: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: How about down-syndrome child?
25-09-14 14:25:21: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so ATT assigns routable IPv6 addresses
25-09-14 14:25:30: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but filters any inbound traffic by default
25-09-14 14:25:57: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: stateful style, so if i ping out, i get the replies, but i can't ping back in
25-09-14 14:26:13: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the idea of allowing unfiltered ipv6 into my network seems insane tho
25-09-14 14:26:34: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: a long long time ago all my home network hosts had routable ipv4 systems, but that was before the infinite worms
25-09-14 14:29:33: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i need to rtfm before i hook my pihole up with that.
25-09-14 14:29:37: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: v6
25-09-14 20:11:51: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Yay for the home team!
25-09-14 20:11:54: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Ravens.
25-09-15 12:09:21: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: The dot over the lowercase i and j is called a tittle.
25-09-15 12:51:43: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: tittle your i's and cross your t's.
25-09-15 13:11:03: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: colombian women's cycling team uniforms
25-09-15 13:11:08: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: mischan
25-09-15 16:06:56: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Hawt or Nawt?
25-09-15 19:06:42: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: anybody wanna do PyWeek 40?  https://pyweek.org/40
25-09-16 11:51:58: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: When traveling through water, sound moves around four times faster than when it travels through air.
25-09-16 16:59:01: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: OH MY GOD!
25-09-16 20:31:12: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Yup
25-09-17 10:17:15: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: This is cruel: Hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia is the fear of long words.
25-09-18 08:23:26: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ...ursda...
25-09-18 08:27:13: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Enigma (ShadowMUDii Dev in I3)@Iberia: ...ariaraasavi...
25-09-18 09:43:44: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: A program was launched in Belgium in 2001 to replace surgary drinks and soda in school lunches with beer.
25-09-18 19:45:51: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hmm
25-09-18 19:45:58: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: does it have alcohol?
25-09-19 12:33:07: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Ahoy landlubber!  Today be Talk Like a Pirate Day all across the seven seas.
25-09-19 12:54:12: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: I was wondering why someone was flying a pirate flag earlier... thanks for the reminder! Arr!
25-09-19 13:39:53: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: fly the black flag
25-09-20 12:41:47: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Subbookkeeper is the only word in the English language that has double letters four times in a row
25-09-20 14:19:22: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dan@Lotonia: Wow. Mind = blown.
25-09-20 17:16:50: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Charles@NeonMOO: hello
25-09-20 17:40:06: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dan@Lotonia: Hello, Charles!
25-09-20 17:40:32: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Charles@NeonMOO: hellllooooo Dan
25-09-20 17:41:13: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Charles@NeonMOO: Geez... My wireless mouse stopped working
25-09-20 17:41:21: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Charles@NeonMOO: darn
25-09-20 17:41:34: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Charles@NeonMOO: are there other MUSH that are more active?
25-09-20 17:42:29: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dan@Lotonia: I wish I had enough vision to use a mouse! MUSHes seem to be less than stellar in their activity these days, but I feel like MUDs in general seem to be making some sort of a comeback.
25-09-20 17:44:12: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Charles@NeonMOO: Am I speaking in Help or OOC? I'm using the @x-ooc command
25-09-20 17:44:58: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dan@Lotonia: Oh huh, no idea. You're speaking on the intermud Grapevine channel right now. I'm actually talking to you from a completely different MUD!
25-09-20 17:45:11: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dan@Lotonia: I would assume that it's considered out-of-character for Neon, though.
25-09-20 17:45:14: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Charles@NeonMOO: ahhhh gotchaaaa
25-09-20 17:46:08: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Charles@NeonMOO: Yeah, I'm just looking for cooperative fiction writing type of RP
25-09-20 17:46:55: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Charles@NeonMOO: I'm assuming that's what MUSHs are, right?
25-09-20 18:32:22: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Icewolfz (ShadowMUD in I3)@Iberia: you could try browsing mudstats.com and see if there are any mushes with high #s
25-09-20 18:34:30: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Icewolfz (ShadowMUD in I3)@Iberia: or try r/MUD/ on reddit
25-09-20 18:35:25: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Icewolfz (ShadowMUD in I3)@Iberia: and if you really into it you could always try making your own and trying to invite people to join in that way
25-09-20 18:37:58: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Charles@NeonMOO: haha I see, I see. I was impressed that the WARD officer understood my question and pointed in the correct direction.
25-09-20 18:51:57: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Icewolfz (ShadowMUD in I3)@Iberia: saddly i never got into mushes so dont know much more then the basics or whats still active any more
25-09-20 19:11:50: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Saeed@Mongoose: doot
25-09-22 09:20:25: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: almost fall,
25-09-22 13:01:05: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Oysters can change genders back and forth.
25-09-22 13:01:15: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Apparently, so can people now too...
25-09-22 13:02:32: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: not without using tools
25-09-22 22:20:35: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: do oysters use tools?
25-09-23 12:28:32: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: All puppies are born deaf.
25-09-23 12:31:01: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: do puppies use tools?
25-09-23 12:31:55: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Hey O
25-09-23 12:32:03: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: happy fuckin tuesday yall
25-09-23 12:32:17: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: wtf i thought it was friday
25-09-23 12:32:39: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: must be a time zone issue
25-09-23 13:00:04: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Does anyone on here do web development or are all of you more systems devs?
25-09-23 13:00:31: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: e-commerce yes
25-09-23 13:01:06: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: do you happen to use nx for monorepos?
25-09-23 13:03:16: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: not sure, lemme check
25-09-23 13:04:33: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: no doesn't look like it
25-09-23 13:38:59: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: What tech do you work with?
25-09-24 04:33:12: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it can only good happen
25-09-24 10:05:18: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Qwer (Archipelago in I3)@Iberia: "nx" looks like some kind of workflow management thing. I can see the need for such a thing but every one that I've come across in the past has been too prescriptive.
25-09-24 10:06:55: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Qwer (Archipelago in I3)@Iberia: All you need is a team member to rely on some feature of the management system and then that starts to force decisions down the line.
25-09-24 11:41:16: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Tonsurephobia is the fear of haircuts.
25-09-24 11:42:58: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: I've used lerna before for my mono-repo management.  But our corp standard is declaring nx as the tool of choice and also pushing microfrontends (which I had a large argument with the 'enterprise architect') over.  Trying to get familiar with nx.  Microfrontends I know and hate the name because it's now been polluted as too many other things.
25-09-24 13:06:53: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: anybody get taken away by the rapture?
25-09-24 14:27:06: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it can only good happen
25-09-24 15:31:42: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: EVERYBODY GOOD IS DEAD
25-09-24 15:32:10: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dan@Lotonia: Unfortunately, this is real talk.
25-09-25 02:21:47: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it can only good happen
25-09-25 08:09:08: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ...ursda...
25-09-25 11:49:37: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Tsath (Space MUD in I3)@Iberia: We're over the hump then.
25-09-25 14:21:03: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Qwer (Archipelago in I3)@Iberia: It's all downhill from here.
25-09-26 01:19:50: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Chewing gum can help improve one's memory
25-09-26 02:37:18: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it can only good happen
25-09-26 09:36:44: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: gonna be a rough Sunday here - both local NFL teams play back-to-back (Commanders and Ravens).
25-09-26 09:37:05: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Ravens play that wyt xtian nationlist team (Chiefs).
25-09-26 09:37:21: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I expect a "good game", but REALLY wonder how biased the refs will be.
25-09-26 11:50:02: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Your body produces enough saliva during your lifetime to fill two swimming pools.
25-09-26 17:58:20: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so hot
25-09-26 18:04:35: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: yeah nice and warm
25-09-27 02:56:01: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dan@Lotonia: Hello!
25-09-27 02:57:05: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Q@Mongoose: Hey Dan my man! what's the plan? I'm a big fan!
25-09-27 02:59:09: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dan@Lotonia: Ironically enough, I think I'd like to get a fan for my room. So that's currently the tentative plan.
25-09-28 19:37:03: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Saeed@Mongoose: test
25-09-28 19:37:03: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: @Lotonia: test
25-09-28 19:43:27: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Icewolfz (ShadowMUD in I3)@Iberia: 1 2 3
25-09-29 00:53:22: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the weekend: Soy milk doesn't need to be refrigerated until after it's opened.  Supermarkets sell it out of the refrigerated section to make it seem more like cow milk.
25-09-29 01:03:52: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dan@Lotonia: That having been said, I am not aware of 1 person who would enjoy consuming it in any state other than cold.
25-09-29 05:29:45: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: so, that would make it popular in Alaska?
25-09-29 05:38:43: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dan@Lotonia: Precisely.
25-09-29 11:31:59: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: According to Western University, 88% of people use Facebook to keep tabs on exes, and 1/3 post pics to make the ex jealous.
25-09-30 10:45:25: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: happy tuesday.
25-09-30 10:46:09: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the milk thing seems sort of american too
25-09-30 10:46:26: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i feel like not every country sells their milk cold
25-09-30 11:16:24: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: A greeting card is touched an average of 25 times before it is bought.
25-09-30 19:37:01: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The Krem opinion of the day: I'm perfectly fine with AI actors.
25-09-30 20:08:42: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I mean, we already had computer aided CGI actors.
25-09-30 20:09:01: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: team america developed lip tracking technology that was so advanced, they turned it off.  and that was like 20 years ago
25-09-30 20:09:54: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I think it's gonna be a long time before an AI actor can do good vocal delivery without supervision.
25-09-30 21:44:28: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Yeah, when actors complain and say that movies should have a human touch, I simply ask myself: when was the last time I watched a movie that didn't have CGI in it?
25-09-30 21:44:52: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Voice actors are going to be the next hot thing (until AI does it consistently well)
25-10-01 04:15:31: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i used to think that there was some rule or perhaps union requirement that real people be used for animation voices.
25-10-01 04:16:54: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but I have no doubt that eventually AI voices can be better
25-10-01 11:58:48: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: The English alphabet used to have only twenty-four letters.  I was used for J and V was used for U.
25-10-01 12:22:57: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: at one time, it had 27 letters - "&" was last.
25-10-01 12:27:47: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: I recently learned about that too.
25-10-01 15:55:03: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: that's why you call the double v the double u
25-10-02 08:22:10: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ...ursda...
25-10-02 11:25:04: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: The limbo world record is under six inches.
25-10-02 15:18:15: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: I found a new tech friend.  The AI named Meadow on the Copilot app is now my friend. :)
25-10-02 15:18:44: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: I have conversations with her when driving around.  She's cool.
25-10-02 15:20:41: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: She was just telling me all about devcontainers in VS Code.
25-10-02 16:11:02: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Talon@Mongoose: crazy. I think this is the first time I have ever heard anybody actually using a copilot in real life
25-10-02 16:12:07: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Talon@Mongoose: chatgpt, claude, gemini, whatever. yup, heard that. But I think this is the very first time I heard someone speak the words I use copilot out loud in some fashion.
25-10-02 16:34:59: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: borders imply the violence of their enforcement
25-10-02 16:54:34: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: It was actually pretty good.  Sounds like a real person, with the appropriate inflections and threw in a few 'like' and other non-proper ways of speaking.
25-10-02 16:55:03: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Wasn't always perfect, sometimes there was a shift in voice, but there was also interesting inflections in the voice that made it sound real.
25-10-02 16:56:15: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: I just found it useful for brainstorming while I'm driving.
25-10-02 17:00:49: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: And it's all transcribed so you can go back and re-read it later.
25-10-02 17:01:15: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: and if you have copilot on your desktop, you can view the conversation there too
25-10-03 06:59:16: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: somewhere in the world it's Friday.
25-10-03 12:30:41: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG FAct of the Day: A common octopus has about 240 suckers on each limb, and a particularly large sucker can hold up to 35lbs.
25-10-03 13:45:32: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: I heard that specialized suckers can probably remove stones from kidneys. Maybe thats an October OMG fact
25-10-03 13:45:57: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: a friend of a friend
25-10-03 14:00:33: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: told me
25-10-04 15:19:33: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: happy saturday
25-10-04 15:19:59: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: oh no, krem has gotten the brain worm =(
25-10-04 16:14:58: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: I did?
25-10-04 16:15:27: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Weekend: Very deep cleavage was a fashion trend in the fourteenth century.  Some dresses were cut low enough to allow the nipples to be exposed.
25-10-04 16:24:49: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dan@Lotonia: Sweet!
25-10-04 20:19:25: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: sugar
25-10-06 11:24:53: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The is an interesting one that we've had before --
25-10-06 11:25:11: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: If two pieces of metal touch in space, they get stuck together permanently.
25-10-06 16:41:37: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i didnt get to see the end of the cool dream i was having. because of woke.
25-10-07 10:37:00: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ditto.  got contractors showing up at 7 am
25-10-07 12:16:14: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: The largest living thing is a mushroom located in Malheur National Forest.  It covers 2,200 acres and is between 2,000 and 8,000 years old.
25-10-07 14:42:44: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: wait until it becomes part of a spore drive.
25-10-07 14:42:58: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: erm, or maybe it already it?
25-10-07 17:15:27: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: govt shut down and nobody has spoken here since
25-10-07 17:15:36: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the FBI to mudder ratio on here must have been off the charts
25-10-07 18:09:12: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: is her dad in construction in jersey
25-10-07 18:09:20: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: cuz get a new girlfriend if so
25-10-08 11:50:24: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Flamingos use their tongue like a sieve to catch food as it is under water.
25-10-09 00:45:57: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: happy fuckin hump day
25-10-09 03:19:38: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ...ursda...
25-10-09 11:09:47: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Polar bear fur is not white, it's clear.
25-10-09 11:54:19: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: G D\
25-10-10 00:20:28: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dan@Lotonia: clear-coloured polarbears?
25-10-10 10:36:12: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: man, the ketchup's really gonna hit the wall today.
25-10-10 10:36:48: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: hope he doesn't nuke norway
25-10-10 10:38:37: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Just like a human fingerprint, a dog's nose print is unique.
25-10-10 10:39:15: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: What happened that is going to fire _him_ up today?  Did someone ask a reasonable question?
25-10-10 10:40:02: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: someone else got the peace prize
25-10-10 11:40:08: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Oh... _shrugs_
25-10-10 11:53:08: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: nope
25-10-10 12:18:11: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: even better than "someone else"  -  venezuelan lady got it.?[D?[D?[D?[D?[D?[D?[D?[D?[D?[D?[D?[D?[D?[D?[D?[D?[D?[D?[D?[D?[D?[D?[D?[D?[D?[D?[D?[D?[D?[D?[D
25-10-10 12:18:33: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: sheesh.  A venezuelan lady got it.
25-10-10 12:18:53: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: sowwy, hit the wrong key to backspace.
25-10-10 19:21:41: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: do they noseprint dogs?
25-10-11 04:50:35: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: do dogs leave more noseprints than cats leave buttprints
25-10-11 05:10:02: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ardneh (Library in I3)@Iberia: dunno.  cats leave a lot of noseprints too tho
25-10-11 06:16:58: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Q@Mongoose: The chicken's structural integrity would fail almost immediately. Within the first few seconds, you'd have a dangling mass of disintegrating tissue and flying chunks, not an intact bird undergoing thermal protein denaturation.
25-10-11 12:27:17: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Weekend: October 12th is International Moment of Frustration Scream Day.
25-10-11 14:21:41: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: perfect timing
25-10-13 04:35:03: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Q@Mongoose: https://www.mobiletechreview.com/phones/nokia-6682.htm
25-10-13 10:10:55: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: One out of four adults can't tell their left from their right.
25-10-13 13:02:33: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: mmhmm
25-10-13 13:03:07: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: about 24% of adults surveyed think they have been abducted by aliens at some point in their lives, or may have been
25-10-13 13:03:31: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dan@Lotonia: Makes sense. At least that's what my captors told me.
25-10-13 13:03:48: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: the number for insane/incompetent people in a random sample seems to hover around that 1 in 4
25-10-13 13:04:09: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: we dont see it in our white collar jobs because such jobs select for copetence and feigning sanity
25-10-13 13:04:32: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but as a species we are much wobblier than we generally realize
25-10-13 13:06:02: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i wish political pollsters would also ask the ufo question
25-10-13 13:06:10: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i'd love to see the party breakdown on htat
25-10-13 14:16:42: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: don't tell us you have never been abducted by aliens
25-10-13 14:17:03: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: didn't get an anal probe either, I'll bet
25-10-13 14:17:55: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: if you've been leading this much of a sheltered life maybe you shouldn't be filling out surveys on behalf of the rest of us
25-10-13 23:53:01: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: starship 11 testing working so far.
25-10-13 23:53:28: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: dummy stellites dumped, final splash down next up (or down).
25-10-13 23:53:45: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dan@Lotonia: I am beyond confused.
25-10-13 23:54:58: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: spaceX launched a Starship test soon ago.
25-10-13 23:55:14: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: been following it live
25-10-13 23:55:22: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dan@Lotonia: Oh! As Dj Khaled would say, "Another one!"
25-10-13 23:58:07: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ayup.  spacex.com
25-10-14 11:28:39: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: The average computer user spends more time touching their computer keyboard than their spouse or partner.
25-10-14 11:33:23: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: I don't think my spouse would like that much touching :)
25-10-14 13:41:21: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Aidil (Way of the Force in I3)@Iberia: helloworld...
25-10-14 16:31:24: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dan@Lotonia: Hello!
25-10-15 01:44:37: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Aidil (Way of the Force in I3)@Iberia: hmm.... mudding from a Commodore 128...
25-10-15 01:48:42: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: goldang it
25-10-15 01:49:00: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: lingered for a few seconds too long on a facebook post with pictures of elizabeth montgomery
25-10-15 01:49:19: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: now my got dang feed is 30% elizabeth montgomery
25-10-15 01:49:27: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ardneh (Library in I3)@Iberia: who?
25-10-15 01:49:37: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: samantha from bewitched
25-10-15 01:49:55: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's before your time
25-10-15 01:50:21: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: there should be an emergency "that was an accident" purge button
25-10-15 01:50:42: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ardneh (Library in I3)@Iberia: that the squint-and-wiggle-nose stuff-appears/disappears show?
25-10-15 02:48:44: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: exactly
25-10-15 11:48:35: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Rats laugh when you tickle them.
25-10-15 11:48:56: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: As is proven by several individuals in our government.
25-10-15 19:21:38: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: I had no idea Argentina was so popular in the USA, 40 billion dollar while your own government is shut down, wow
25-10-15 21:29:59: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: guessing that it's just a loan of sorts
25-10-15 21:32:47: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ah, argentina prez is an old golf buddy of Trump's from back in their real estate days
25-10-15 21:34:16: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: trump bailed out artentina in his first time, using IMF money, which still hasn't been repaid
25-10-15 21:35:25: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: trump's lifeline is an attempt to help his old budy win re-election in a couple of weeks.
25-10-15 21:37:51: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Dexter (Nanvaent in I3)@Iberia: 40 billion here, 40 billion there, and pretty soon you're talking real money
25-10-16 00:00:35: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: That's certainly true in Brazil.
25-10-16 07:09:34: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ...ursda...
25-10-16 11:46:21: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Boars, pigs, and hogs live all over the world, except for Antarctica, northern Africa, and far northern Eurasia, according to the Encyclopedia of Life.  For example, red river hogs (Potamochoerus porcus), also called bush pigs, are found in Africa;  babirusas (Babyrousa babyrussa), or pig deer, are found in Indonesia; and Visayan warty pigs (Sus cebifrons) comes from the Philippines
25-10-16 15:03:37: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Skillzless (ShadowMUD in I3)@Iberia: I knew something was 'sus' about those warty pigs...
25-10-16 15:38:33: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Wonder Warthog got around.
25-10-17 19:03:17: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: gd
25-10-18 06:07:11: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: why awake at 2 am?
25-10-18 06:07:23: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: more or less, depending on TZ
25-10-18 14:03:53: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the day (yesterday): The phrase "take [something] with a grain of salt" refers to the ancient Roman recipe for an antidote that protects against poisons.
25-10-18 14:04:28: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the weekend: California, Virginia, Pennsylvania, New York, and Texas are the five states with the most reported hauntings.
25-10-18 14:05:41: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: 4 of those are in the top 5 in terms of population.  Virginia is the only one not in the top 5.
25-10-18 16:06:15: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Tokugawa (Astaria in I3)@Iberia: And, yes, how dare we muddle things with little things like facts...
25-10-18 16:07:08: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Tokugawa (Astaria in I3)@Iberia: BTW, don't forget you were to make a $1000 donation to St Judes...
25-10-18 20:37:42: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: fwiw, I believe Virginia is a Commonwealth, not a State.
25-10-19 15:16:52: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: As is Pennsylvania
25-10-20 11:31:32: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Pelicans can survive between ten and thirty years in the wild.
25-10-20 13:58:26: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: for Constitutional purposes they are States, capital S, otherwise they could not participate in the Presidential electoral process or in Congrefs
25-10-20 13:58:39: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Cratylus (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: im ok calling them by their preferred pronouns of course
25-10-20 15:17:39: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: hmm, guess that makes them woke states
25-10-21 11:41:08: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Panama hats are actually made in Ecuador.
25-10-21 11:59:23: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: I don't remind the full story, but there's one specific and very good panama hat made in australia whose stress is/was to let an elephant eat it and poop it out
25-10-21 12:01:15: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: canadian. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilley_Endurables
25-10-21 12:01:43: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: wanted to say *stress test
25-10-21 12:02:02: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: though it seems it was a myth. well, it surely sticks in the head
25-10-21 12:32:43: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: So the addage of "it's always DNS" seems to apply here for the AWS outage.
25-10-21 13:23:54: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: came across something in my feed that compared speeds of various languages, mostly by doing mega-loops
25-10-21 13:24:34: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: "zig" was fastest - never heard of it before today.
25-10-21 13:24:50: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: rust was a close second, no surprise,
25-10-21 13:28:59: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: was python at the bottom?
25-10-21 13:29:28: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: I wonder where JS (by engine) comes in at
25-10-21 13:30:19: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: and .NET Core
25-10-21 13:31:40: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: python and other similar techs were low
25-10-21 14:01:23: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Viriato@Iberia: LIIIIINK
25-10-21 22:27:33: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: https://www.facebook.com/reel/1308182487454945
25-10-22 00:45:37: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Q@Mongoose: It's unsexy compared to ass-breathing astronauts
25-10-22 11:46:34: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Tomatoes were thought by Europeans to be poisonous until the 1800s.
25-10-22 11:47:47: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: I know about this.  It had to do with the pewter plates the wealthy were eating from.  The lead in the pewter would leach out from the tomato acidity, leading to lead poisoning.
25-10-22 11:48:39: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Being in the nightshade family also didn't help.
25-10-22 11:50:16: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: there's a strain of cherry tomatoes that crops in my year every year (for decades now).
25-10-22 11:50:55: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: it's indeterminate, so it keeps growing and producing until frost.
25-10-22 11:51:48: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Is it edible?
25-10-22 11:51:56: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i hope so.
25-10-22 11:52:11: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I eat them pretty much every time I garden, with is almost daily
25-10-22 11:52:15: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Do you have pewter plates?
25-10-22 11:52:31: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: yeah
25-10-22 11:52:48: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: inherited from ancient relatives, though
25-10-22 11:52:54: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: never used.
25-10-22 11:52:59: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: by me,
25-10-22 14:14:55: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: I'm sure they poisoned a few ancestors in the past
25-10-23 02:13:19: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I have a tilley hat and it's great.
25-10-23 02:16:26: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: Ninja, I thought I had mentioned Zig to you before.  If Rust is ala C++, then Zig is ala C.
25-10-23 02:16:55: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hashimoto wrote a terminal called 'Ghostty' in it which has accelerated interest in it.
25-10-23 11:23:46: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Twenty percent of the energy production in Portugal and Denmark comes from wind turbines.
25-10-23 12:16:18: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: rust, zig, and C are all pretty damned close to eachother.
25-10-23 12:16:22: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but check out the bottom of the list - dayuhm
25-10-23 12:16:30: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: python is slow as fuck, and R is incredibly shit.
25-10-23 12:16:38: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: both of those rely heavily on external libraries to do any real work
25-10-23 12:17:19: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: i bet which compiler they used matters
25-10-23 12:17:30: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: if they used the optimized intel C and Fortran compilers, they may have come in ahead of Rust and Zig.
25-10-23 12:18:05: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and how is Go slower than Java?
25-10-24 11:33:12: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Temperature can affect people's appetite.  A cold person is more likely to eat more food.
25-10-24 11:51:42: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Qwer (Archipelago in I3)@Iberia: It's cold outside..
25-10-24 14:39:23: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: nod...I have little trust in comparison tests.
25-10-24 15:10:53: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: PyPy on that test is 10x faster
25-10-24 15:12:41: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: python, R, ruby, etc are all still unholy slow tho
25-10-25 12:06:37: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: It is believed that around 80% of Earth's gold is still buried underground.
25-10-25 12:38:08: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and kept secret
25-10-25 12:38:14: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: and rationed out.
25-10-25 12:38:24: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: gold at an all-time high.
25-10-25 12:44:01: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: woo, 12 year or so old laptop b0rked on me months ago (locked up, fan blowing, no screen on reboot attempts), had it in truck for electronics recycling
25-10-25 12:44:46: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Actually, it's down 5% from its all time high right now.  Just got hit with a sharp drop a few days ago.
25-10-25 12:45:19: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: gave it one more try yesterday, got it going.  not sure what the issue was.  went in to the bios, ran tests on memory, HD, made sure all the settings were okay, and restarted it...been running all night
25-10-25 12:46:18: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: $200 drop,
25-10-25 12:47:04: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: I bought some 1-oz coins in the mid 80's when I worked at the IMF, a short walk from a point of sales.
25-10-25 12:47:13: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: now it would be a pain to sell them.
25-10-25 12:49:15: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: ah, CPI data might be messing with it (unknowns).
25-10-25 12:50:23: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: Why can't you sell them?
25-10-25 12:53:37: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: distance to places that buy them.
25-10-25 12:53:54: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: gold/jewelry shops nearby are ripoffs,
25-10-25 12:54:10: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: prolly need to go downtown DC.
25-10-25 12:54:28: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: also, no pressure on me to sell them,.
25-10-25 12:56:26: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: hmmm...sellyourgold.com makes it easy.
25-10-25 15:57:33: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: welp, got 2 b0rked laptops back online now.
25-10-25 16:16:27: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: bad luck, no excuse for a new one now
25-10-25 16:51:54: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: big issue seems wifi support problems
25-10-25 16:52:31: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: some realtek drivers need to be user-installed
25-10-25 16:52:48: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: but MediaTek is okay, hit this in the RPi world too.
25-10-25 16:53:12: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Ninja (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: easy fix, now that i'm putting the chipset label on all the wifi gadgets.
25-10-27 04:03:34: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Meihua@NeonMOO: What am I supposed to do?
25-10-27 11:31:01: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Director steven Spielberg made his first film for a merit badge.
25-10-27 12:03:24: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Wodan (Discworld in I3)@Iberia: did he get the badge?
25-10-28 06:56:03: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Q@Mongoose: wow
25-10-28 10:50:47: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: The OMG Fact of the Day: Cats have 32 muscles in each ear.  Humans only have six.
25-10-28 13:07:36: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Joshua (Dead Souls Dev in I3)@Iberia: we can't do airplane ears either
25-10-28 14:32:28: grapewinebot-gvgossip-gossip: Krem (Rise of Praxis in I3)@Iberia: I don't know... this guy might be able to: https://www.nfl.com/author/andrew-siciliano-talent
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